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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Response to Crown Motion to Stri    |
|    07 Jun 18 10:55:44    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              JCT: Here is our latest response to the Crown's motion to       strike all the actions for damages due to delay as       frivolous. Calling our complaints ridiculous is all they       have:              File No: T-1379-17        FEDERAL COURT       BETWEEN:        ALLAN J. HARRIS        Respondent/Plaintiff        and        HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN        Applicant/Defendant               SUPPLEMENTARY MOTION RECORD IN RESPONSE              1. May 10 2018 Harris Statement of Claim T-881-18.......(2)       2. May 24 2018 Kent Truman Reply........................(6)       3. Apr 4 2018 Kyle Duggan ipolitico article............(18)       4. Health Canada Market Data page......................(21)       5. Respondent's Supplementary Written Representations..(35)              For the Applicant: Jeff Harris       For the Respondent: Wendy Wright Attorney General for Canada               RESPONDENT'S SUPPLEMENTARY WRITTEN REPRESENTATIONS              BACKGROUND              1. On Sep 11 2017, Allan J. Harris (Jeff) filed a Statement       of Claim for a declaration that the time to process his       ACMPR application to grow cannabis was too long compared to       the 4 weeks it used to take under the MMAR, Cause of Action       A; and for damages in the value of the marijuana that could       have been grown in the time past the 4 weeks. He was named       Lead Plaintiff for others too, now over 180 plaintiffs.              FIRST AMENDMENT              2.On Mar 5 2017, he filed an Amended Statement of Claim for       a declaration that the back-dating of his permit to when the       doctor signed rather than when issued unconstitutionally       reduced his growing period; and for damages by restitution       of the reduced time.              LATER AMENDMENTS              3. During preliminary motions, the Crown pointed out some       plaintiffs should have claimed the Rights to Liberty and       Security, when Life didn't fit, so later plaintiffs claimed       those rights were engaged.              4. The Crown argued the claims failed to state which       principles of fundamental justice were being violated by the       short-staffing, so later plaintiffs stated such principles       that had been violated.              5. The Crown had pointed out Harris had not claimed any       fixed expenses, only the ambiguous value of the cannabis not       grown, so later plaintiffs claimed site rent and expenses.              6. The Crown had stated that S.178 required the period to       start when the doctor signed. It was determined that       S.8(2)(b) had the requirement so later plaintiffs added the       need to strike S.8(2)(b) as unconstitutional.              7. The Defendant's Motion Record failed to contain the Mar 5       2018 Amended Claim they were seeking to strike and had       substituted an outdated claim without Cause of Action B.       Brown J. ordered that the Amended Statement of Claim be       included in the motion record and that the outdated claim be       replaced with a more representative one.              8. Rather than include one of the latest claims with all the       amendments as representative of the group, Canada included       claims before Harris' March Amended claim from January and       February which included Cause of Action B but none of the       later amendments.              APPENDIX A HARRIS CLAIM T-881-18              9. Appendix A is the first such updated Statement of Claim       T-881-18 filed by Lead Plaintiff Harris on May 10 because of       another new delay in amending his permit and so he should       not need to amend his original Claim in order to present all       the arguments in his updated most representative claim for       the whole group.              FRIVOLOUS CAUSE OF ACTIONS              10. Canada has argued that the start and end dates are       insufficient facts insisting what illnesses the patients       had, why they opted for herbal rather than chemical and why       they opted for self-grow and not purchase from a Licensed       Producer were needed to be able to determine whether the       processing period was too long and the exemption period too       short. Lead Plaintiff pointed out the lack of relevance in       the facts they sought and the relevance of the dates       provided. We should not have to disclose our illness in a       public forum. The health care practitioner signed stating       the patient has a qualifying illness should not be       dismissed.              11. Plaintiffs further stress that in Chaoulli, delays in       medication were found to infringe on rights, so Plaintiffs       should not have to show the personal harms which Chaoulli       has already determined and should only have to show the       delays were too long.              BACK-DATING ISSUE              12. After Brown J. ordered the Defendant to explain the       back-dating in their Motion to Strike, rather than comply       with the order to explain the back-dating, the Crown writes:        11. since these proceedings were commenced, the Minister        of Health issued several class exemptions under s. 56 of        the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act;        12. the section 56 exemptions apply to anyone with a        Registration Certificate issued on or after March 2,        2018, and allow Health Canada to issue Registration        Certificates with a period of use that begins on the        date the Registration Certificate is issued, instead of        on the date that the medical document was signed by the        health care practitioner;              13. If the period start and end dates were sufficient for       Health Canada to identify the problem of Cause of Action B,       too little period of time exempted, why should the dates not       be sufficient to identify the problem of Cause of Action A,       too long period of time to process?              APPENDIX B TRUMAN MOTION REPLY              14. Appendix B is the Reply in Kent Truman's motion for       interim remedy where he explains that it was the Health       Canada Notice that misled him into thinking that his claim       had been mooted by his permit being extended to what the       doctor had "authorized" to only later find out that permits       were being extended to what the doctor authorizes for future       applicants, not past plaintiffs. Our previous Response does       point out how no longer back-dating does not help those       whose permits before March 2 were back-dated and that the       S.56 Orders do not even deal with the start time at all.              15. He sought the documentation for the Defendant's       assertion that the claims of the group had been mooted by       the the S.56 orders. Instead, the Crown offered reasons why       he should not be allowed to ask. His permit was allowed to       expire after his renewal was sent in 4 weeks early and       remains unrenewed.              16. But with only the dates of the periods in the claims,       Health Canada were able to deduce that:        the time it takes to process an application can reduce        the period of time available to produce a limited amount              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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