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   John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All   
   TURMEL: Donald Cote's medpot permit with   
   11 Jul 18 15:46:55   
   
   From: johnturmel@gmail.com   
      
   JCT: Nicole Plouffe-Van Edig's permit renewal was issued a   
   few days before a hearing before a Federal Court hearing   
   except her form had been returned as incomplete. Donald Cote   
   permit was issued a few days before a hearing before a   
   Federal Court hearing except his form had been returned as   
   missing a valid signature.   
      
   So they both filed motions asking the Court whether the   
   permits they were issued are any good absent signed   
   documentation?   
      
   Wendy Wright   
   June 26   
      
   Donald Cote   
      
   Re: COTE, Donald v. HMTQ (Turmel Kit) File No: T-377-18   
      
   I am writing in response to the to the above-mentioned   
   motion which I received last week.   
      
   I wish to confirm on behalf of my client, Health Canada,   
   that the Registration Certificate MCR-61464 issued to you on   
   May 1 2018 is indeed valid. Although  your application was   
   returned to you, Health Canada, in undertaking a review of   
   your file, determined that it had all the information needed   
   in order to issue you a registration certificate and it did   
   so immediately.   
      
   JCT: Har har har har har har. A review of the documentation   
   not in their possession has determined that the signatures   
   not in their possession are now original enough to warrant   
   the permit being issued?   
      
   WW: I apologize for any confusion this has caused. Your   
   certificate MCR-61464 is currently valid and has expiry date   
   of May 1 2019.   
      
   In light of this confirmation, please advise if you wish   
   to continue with your motion.   
   Wendy Wright, Counsel, National Litigation Sector   
      
   JCT: As if "McGuire says so" is all we need. After all, he   
   told the court that the S.8 requirement that the period   
   start when the doctor signed was changed by a S.56 exemption   
   that did no such thing, why take his word now. Notice no   
   reassurance that everything was done right, only that   
   everything is now all right.   
      
   The whole point of the motion was to get the issue of an 8   
   month abuse with 4 false refusals for non-original   
   signatures in front of the judge for censure and punishment.   
      
   The way it was issued was unorthodox! Not properly   
   completed? Missing signatures? Now we're told: Forget it,   
   still good, nothing wrong..   
      
   Well, they told the court how diligent they must be with so   
   many other applicants, no permits without applications being   
   rigorously verified. And here is the second example of them   
   spitting out a permit after having sent back the   
   documentation as incomplete. Only to avoid a court hearing   
   exposing their dereliction.   
      
   Donald's response to Health Canada:   
      
       Health Canada now say that they have all the information   
       with which to process and issue my permit but they had   
       told me they do not have a completed application with   
       original signatures.   
       Why not ask the judge just to make sure that a permit   
       issued upon an application lacking an original signature   
       is still valid.   
      
   If it was about some other kind of info, it might work. But   
   since they're rejected for missing an original signature to   
   be complete, it's not workable. A review of a bad signature   
   without the signature is not valid. But we're reassured it   
   is. We're still asking Judge Brown if a permit issued   
   without a properly-signed form is valid.   
      
   So now that she has that answer, we just sit back until the   
   judge does something. At least he's aware that this is the   
   4th time your originals were improperly rejected as "not   
   originals." Har har har har har har.   
      
   So not only have we caught McGuire changing the permit date   
   software without authorization, but issuing permits without   
   completed forms. And Judge Brown got to see it all and now   
   decides whether an Authorization registered by Mr. McGuire   
   on Health Canada paperwork is valid without an acceptable   
   signature?   
      
   And it cements the notion that "not original" was the main   
   reason used for the 62% rejection rates shown when they do   
   it 4 times to the same guy in stalling him over 8 months!   
      
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