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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Crown tries to duck MedPot Site     |
|    17 Aug 18 12:52:11    |
   
   From: johnturmel@gmail.com   
      
   JCT: Remember that our Statements of Claim have evolved over   
   time. It started with Jeff Harris and those who claimed for   
   the value of the pot they could have grown during the   
   improper delay but then later claims added the site rent and   
   expenses that were lost during the delay.   
      
   Since it looked like the Crown had not noticed the extra   
   damages claimed, and since we didn't need to have a slow-   
   down of the documentation, Jeff wrote a letter to Case   
   Management Judge Brown:   
      
    July 26 2018   
      
    Justice Brown   
    Case Management Judge   
    Federal Court of Canada   
      
    Your Honour:   
      
    In their Statement of Defence, Defendant will no doubt   
    respond to the claim for damages in the amount of the   
    value of the Applicant's:   
    prescription during any delay which this Court may   
    rule inappropriate..   
      
    I would point out that the Statements of Claim of the   
    most recent Plaintiffs also include the claim for more   
    damages in the amount of the value of the Applicant's:   
    prescription AND LOST SITE RENT AND EXPENSES during   
    any delay which this Court may rule inappropriate..   
      
    I paid $2,300 for my last prescription as have many   
    others paid large sums to doctors willing to take the   
    brunt of Health Canada's harassment.   
      
    Since the Defendant may not have noticed those extra 6   
    words in the most updated claims, I would ask the Court   
    to direct defendant to respond to the claim for lost   
    expenses in its Statement of Defence.   
   ____   
      
   JCT: Today, he got a response telling the judge they didn't   
   want to deal with it:   
      
   Department of Justice   
    Aug 16 2018   
      
    Dear Registrar:   
    Re: HARRIS, All v. HMTQ No: T-1319-17   
      
    I have received the letter from Mr. Harris dated July 26   
    2018 wherein he asks this Court to direct the Attorney   
    General of Canada ("Canada") to respond to the claim for   
    lost expenses raised in other, more recent claims, in   
    Canada's Statement of Defence in the above-mentioned   
    proceeding. Please place this response to that letter   
    before His Honour Judge Brown.   
      
    By Orders dated November 24 and December 11, 2017, the   
    Court designated the Plaintiff's claim as the lead   
    action and placed the other claims in abeyance pending   
    the determination of the Plaintiff's claim. Further to   
    these Orders, Canada intends to file a Statement of   
    Defence which is responsive to the pleadings as set out   
    inthe Amended Statement of Claim filed by the Plaintiff   
    on March 5 2018.   
      
    If the Plaintiff wishes to further amend his Statement   
    of Claim, we would kindly ask that he advise of his   
    intention to do so before Aug 24 2018 so that Canada can   
    properly prepare its Statement of Defence in this   
    proceeding.   
    Yours truly, Wendy Wright.   
      
   JCT: So they figure they get to avoid the issue raised by   
   the latest claimants but maybe not:   
      
   Allan J. Harris, Plaintiff   
      
   Aug 17 2018   
    VIA E-FILING   
      
    Senior Registry Officer   
    Courts Administration Service   
    Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0H9   
      
    Dear Registrar   
      
    I have received the Defendant's letter dated Aug 16   
    2018. Please place this reply to that response before   
    His Honour Judge Brown, Case Management Judge.   
      
    In response to my request for a Direction that the   
    Statment of Defence deal with issues raised in claims by   
    other later plaintiffs for whom I am Lead Plaintiff,   
    Canada responds that they will not be dealing with the   
    extra claims by the later plaintiffs.   
      
    I cannot effectively be Lead Plaintiff for others if   
    their issues are not going to be dealt with.   
      
    The Crown suggests that I amend my claim if I want their   
    issues to be dealt with but "lost rent and expenses" is   
    not an issue for me, only for them. So amending my claim   
    to ask for what I do not want is not the way to go.   
      
    I would therefore ask for a Direction that should the   
    Defendant be permitted to not file a Statement of   
    Defence against the extra claims of those other later   
    claimants, that   
    1) my action be severed from theirs and that   
    2) the Dec 11 2017 stay on their actions pending the   
    determination on mine be lifted so Canada may now file a   
    Statement of Defence in their actions dealing with the   
    issues the other plaintiffs need dealt with.   
    ______________________________   
    Allan J. Harris, Lead Plaintiff   
      
   JCT: So, as expected, the Crown does not intend to deal with   
   the claim raised in other, more recent claims for lost   
   expenses. Figuring they'd duck it, we asked for a Direction   
   and now they prove we were right to suspect them.   
      
   Since they don't want to deal with the claim of the others,   
   why are the others linked to Jeff's case? Seems that if they   
   don't want to deal with the upgraded claims of the later   
   Plaintiffs, their cases should be severed from Jeff's and   
   the Dec 11 Order staying their claims until Jeff's is   
   determined should be lifted. Now the Crown can file a whole   
   bunch of Statements of Defence or try to appoint a new Lead   
   Plaintiff for them to deal with.   
      
   Sure, Jeff didn't have any rent expenses to claim and   
   doesn't need a defence against that claim from him, but from   
   the others who do and have.   
      
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