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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Reply to Crown on motion to carr    |
|    22 Jan 19 09:18:45    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              TURMEL: Reply to Crown on motion to carry 10-day supply              JCT: Half a dozen plaintiffs have filed to be able to strike       the 150-gram cap and carry the same 30-day supply of       marijuana as for narcotics which has no cap.              The Crown has filed a motion to strike the actions as       frivolous and Lead Plaintiff Allan Jeff Harris has to file       the response for the group by Feb 1. Then the Crown Replies       by Feb 22 and the judge can have a hearing or decide.              And Jeff also filed a motion to be able to carry the same       10-day supply as granted to the Garber Four by the B.C.       Superior Court pending trial of the action for 30 days.              The Crown filed a Response motion and this is the Reply.       Case Management Judge Brown can then decide but I'd expect       him to put it off until after the Crown's strike motion. But       it would certainly hurt them if he grants the 10 days.              T-1765-18        FEDERAL COURT       BETWEEN:        ALLAN HARRIS        Plaintiff        (Moving Party)        and        HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN        Defendant        (Responding Party)               APPLICANT'S REPLY              1. Allan Harris is Lead Plaintiff for other "Hi-Dosage"       plaintiffs seeking the same 30x daily-dosage possession cap       as had existed under the MMAR when marijuana was regulated       as severely as the 30-day supply cap for "narcotic"       prescriptions. Justice Manson had extended the MMAR but       imposed the 150 gram possession cap from MMPR S.5(e). When       the MMPR was struck, the 150 gram cap was struck with it. We       are left with a court-imposed cap, not by Parliament, though       subsequent regimes kept the limit.              2. Pending the trial of the action for 30x daily dosage,       Applicant then moved the court for the same 10-day       possession limit in excess of the 150 grams granted by B.C.       Superior Court to the four patients in Garber v. Canada and       that such remedy apply to all plaintiffs for whom he was       appointed Lead Plaintiff or for all patients with Medical       Authorizations.              3. Defendant's Response states three issues:        10. The issue on this motion is whether the Court should        grant the plaintiff's request for an interim "personal        constitutional exemption" from the possession and        shipping limits in the Cannabis Regulations. In        particular:        (a) whether this Court has jurisdiction to grant        the requested relief;        (b) if this Court has jurisdiction to grant the        requested relief, whether the plaintiff has        established that it should be granted; and        (c) whether the plaintiff may seek interlocutory        relief on behalf of the other plaintiffs.              (A) THE REQUESTED RELIEF IS UNAVAILABLE              4. Canada argues exemption akin to declaration:        2... The requested exemption is instead akin to a        request for an interlocutory declaration, which this        Court has no jurisdiction to grant.              5. Even if akin to an interlocutory declaration which this       court has no jurisdiction to grant, an interlocutory       exemption was granted by this court in Allard which the       Crown later mentions in paragraph 24:        24. This Court has previously refused a request for an        interlocutory exemption from the 150 gram possession        limit. In Allard...              6. Applicant submits the court continues to have the       jurisdiction it had in Allard to hear this Application for       Interlocutory Exemption even if akin to an Interlocutory       Declaration.              7. Canada mis-states the Applicant's claim:        11. The plaintiff seeks an interim "personal        constitutional exemption" from the criminal prohibitions        on publicly possessing and on shipping over 150 grams of        cannabis for medical purposes.        13. The requested relief is tantamount to an        interlocutory declaration that the plaintiff may possess        in public and ship over 180 grams of cannabis.              8. Applicant is not seeking to possess and ship any amount       "over 150 grams" but rather seeks to possess and ship "not       less than the 10 days worth while seeking to ship pending       trial for not less than 30 days worth as for all       prescription narcotics as in the former MMAR. Imagine       getting less days of cannabis than the 30 days for oxycodone       or benzos?              9. Crown argues right to 30-days supply is now gone:        12. While this Court has clear jurisdiction to issue        interlocutory injunctions to preserve existing rights        pending the outcome of ongoing proceedings, the        plaintiff does not have an existing right to possess in        public or to ship cannabis in amounts exceeding 180        grams (150 grams pursuant to the Regulations and 30        grams pursuant to the Act). Nor has he established such        a right pursuant to the Charter. An injunction is        unavailable in these circumstances.              10. Yet Canada notes "seeking interlocutory recognition of a       right not currently enjoyed":        30. The Supreme Court of Canada has held that courts        should not lightly order that laws enacted for the        public good are inoperable in advance of a complete        constitutional review, and that interlocutory relief        from allegedly unconstitutional laws should be granted        only in clear and exceptional cases.32        31. While the Supreme Court's analysis was made in the        context of injunction proceedings to preserve existing        rights, it is as applicable, if not more so, where the        plaintiff seeks interlocutory recognition of a right not        currently enjoyed.              11. Applicant does seek interlocutory recognition of a right       formerly enjoyed by all but not currently enjoyed other than       by the Garber Four. So the Garber Four and Allard Four       claimed an existing right under the MMAR that would be taken       away from Harris so he could no longer claim an existing       right under the MMPR once it had been taken away.              12. No legislation took the right to 30-day supply away, one       judge did. Then later regimes kept it. The unconstitutional       MMPR tried to take away the 30-day cap but failed yet the       judge had imposed the new legislation on the permit holders       under the old MMAR pending trial, Parliament did not. So the       150-cap was not enacted by constitutional legislation, it       was empowered one judgment.              13. Defendant decries exemption akin to declaration:        13.. This relief is unavailable. It is well established        that declaratory remedies are not available on an              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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