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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: McCluskey McMotions on Turmel il    |
|    07 Sep 19 05:11:49    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              TURMEL: McCluskey McMotions on Turmel illegal lawyering..              JCT: So, Scott McCluskey has filed 2 motions in recent days.       He filed his first Notice of Motion on Aug 29 and the Crown       wrote on Sep 3 that there was nothing to answer to.              Then he wrote another motion on Sep 4.              Court File Number T-1900-18        FEDERAL COURT       BETWEEN        Scott S. McCluskey        and        HMTQ               NOTICE OF MOTION              SM: TAKE NOTICE THAT Scott McCluskey will make a motion to       the court in writing under rule 369 of the Federal Court       Rules.              THE MOTION IS FOR Complete Dismissal of all cases       approximately 325 litigants before Justice Henry S. Brown       and the Courts, with Lead/Representative plaintiff Allan       Jeffrey Harris, using Turmel kits. OR in the alternative, a       dismissal of Harris's case based on the allegations below.              JCT: Notice how he includes "Representative" in his       description of Harris even though Judge Brown has already       ruled Harris is not a representative. But he must think that       if he repeats it enough, the judge will forget what he said.              SM: THE GROUNDS FOR THE MOTION ARE that Allan Jeffrey Harris       as lead/representative plaintiff has,              1. Mislead Justice and the Courts, by filing actions and       motion etc. he claims are of his own authoring and to the       benefit of those 325 litigants stuck below.              JCT: Nowhere did Jeff ever claim that he authored his own       Turmel kit.              SM: 2. The conduct of Mr. Harris towards myself and other       litigants like Nadine E. Bews and others stuck below has       surpassed civil defamation, into criminal defamation and       quite possibly criminal harassment. All because I dared ask       Harris, why he missed the filing deadline, and if he could       explain to all litigants why the Crown also gained a Stay       order on the interim relief Harris sought.              JCT: Gee, all he had to do was follow my reports on every       step of the Crown gaining a stay pending their appeal. If he       doesn't know happened, he didn't bother reading what       happened.              SM:3. The evidence in the affidavits proves all written       responses were authored for Harris by John C. Turmel, who is       not a plaintiff in any of the cases before Hon. Justice       Henry S. Brown.              JCT: So what?              SM: 4. Further, Mr. Turmel is neither a plaintiff nor a       lawyer or listed as a MacKenzie Friend. In fact, Mr. Turmel       is under investigation by the Ontario Law Society, he brags       for the 4th time.              JCT: Right, I do my guerrilla lawyering right.              SM: 5. The approximately 325 litigants in cases all grouped       together in essence a Class, for better or worse, are       tainted by the unlawful interference by John C. Turmel,       literally running the case from the sidelines giving Harris,       inaccurate, misleading and plain bad lawyering, tainting       Harris's case.              JCT: Bad lawyering resulted in the Crown losing their motion       to strike the challenges against long delays, against the       150-gram cap for the old 30-day carry and losing their       opposition to the Court granting Jeff his 10-day carry as       interim relief which has been stayed pending the Crown       appeal. Us winning, Crown losing so far.              SM: 6. Harris, case is tainted, and by default what affects       his case affects all below for better or worse.              7. In Harris's response, Harris admits Mr. Turmel does       accept fees for his legal advice, but only for expenses       Harris claims.              JCT: So if I only accept having my expenses covered, it's       not for my legal advice, is it?              SM: If that isn't proof that Turmel's interference then I       don't know what is.              JCT: I'd have interfered whether anyone covered my expenses       or not. And I only ever had expenses covered for defending       people charged with criminal offences, no one has covered       any expenses for my "on the sidelines" in Federal Court!       It's just my time sitting at home.              SM: Turmel is a non-licensed person practising law without a       Law degree, or passing the bar.              JCT: How true.              SM: 8. In true self-representation as is the case with all       325 litigants, it means they represent themselves, they       don't have a John Turmel forcing his unlawful lawyering upon       them.              JCT: No one has forced my lawyering upon them.              SM: 9. The Turmel kits themselves were made by John C.       Turmel, who is not a lawyer. Thus Turmel is not qualified to       draft legal documents. Example,Law Deport.ca offers       templates for legal actions. But the big difference is the       Law Depot kits are made by real lawyers. Thus all litigants       that used these kits and were encouraged over and over to       join up by Harris as the affidavits prove, where using kits,       that are not even lawyer prepared legal documents.              JCT: Yes, documents not prepared by a lawyer have been       winning.              SM: 10. As suggested Mr. Turmel often gives the wrong filing       dates to his proxy agents like Harris,              JCT: Often? He keeps repeating that but Jeff and I have been       pretty good at meeting our deadlines.              SM: who do not represent Turmel, but the other way around       Turmel plays lawyer while Harris files and says that Turmel       tells him to. By giving Harris the wrong filing dates,              JCT: I wish I knew what he's talking about when he says I       gave Harris the wrong filing dates.              SM: which Mike Spottiswood Turmel's former Pauper Party       President told me.              JCT: Since that's not true, I doubt my political ally would       tell him I make people miss their filing dates! Har har har       har har har. That really has to be the most stupid of his       charges.              SM: Turmel does this frequently.              JCT: Judge Brown knows that no one's missing their       deadlines. Think of how many replies to the 80 motions made       that I authored for those particular plaintiffs. EG: Vince       Reimer just last week.              SM: All not to win, but to play the game endlessly.              JCT: Not to win? I'm the only person whose motions always       asked to have prohibition repealed by striking marijuana       from the banned list. 4,000 charges dropped do belie that.              SM: Proof of Turmel's losing streak is easily found, he has       his own Wikipedia page, where he holds the Guinness Book       World Record foremost elections defeats, 97 at last count       and he is running again, this year.              JCT: I have headlines: "Winner at the tables, loser at the       polls." So my losing at the polls has nothing to do with my       winning at the tables or my winning in the courts. After       all, I filed the appeal that got 4,000 charges dropped in       2003! Not quite losing.              SM: 11. With regards to legal cases, I recently challenged       Turmel to cite a single case out of the 700 kits used that       he or one of his kit users won. He even bet me $50to make it              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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