From: johnturmel@gmail.com   
      
   JCT: Steve Vetricek served a Response to the Crown's letter   
   asking the judge for a Direction ordering responses from   
   patients on their actions now that the Lead Plaintiff has   
   been knocked out of contention until his appeal:   
      
   Steve Vetricek   
   8 John Street North Unit 102   
   Mississauga, Ontario L5H2E8   
   905 781 9022   
   steve@drfeelgood.ca   
      
   Oct 12 2019   
   BY FAX   
      
   Federal Court Registrar   
   Fax: 613-952-3653   
      
   re: Steve Vetricek v. HMTQ T-1371-18   
      
   Dear Sir/Madam:   
      
   I am writing in response to the Defendant's Oct. 3 2019   
   letter requesting a Direction on the disposition of my case   
   after the decision on the Federal Court of Appeal on the   
   appeal of the Lead Plaintiff. Please place this letter   
   before the case-management judge, his Honour Justice Brown.   
      
   The Court may remember my situation where I was informed   
   after 9 months and only after I had filed a Statement of   
   Claim and motion for interim relief that I had left a   
   required data field blank on my application form. My amended   
   form was then processed in 3 weeks and my motion mooted by   
   delivery of the remedy sought. Health Canada's Director   
   Michael McGuire's Affidavit only mentioned the 3 weeks it   
   took to process the application once perfected and omitted   
   the 9 month delay in informing me of the deficiency.   
      
   Either it took 9 months to open my mail or my application   
   was processed expeditiously and then sat on someone's desk   
   until prodded by the court action.   
      
   PREMATURE: HARRIS APPEALS NOT EXHAUSTED   
      
   The Defendant cites the recent decision of the Federal Court   
   of Appeal dismissing the Lead Plaintiff Harris appeal and   
   seeks a direction that patient plaintiffs serve and file   
   paper documentation to argue why their actions should not be   
   similarly dismissed.   
      
   The Lead Plaintiff's appeals are not exhausted. He has 60   
   days to file an Application for Leave to Appeal to the   
   Supreme Court of Canada, Respondent has 30 days to file a   
   response, and Applicant has 10 days to file a Reply and then   
   it takes a few more months for a decision. So asking for a   
   Direction from below based on a higher decision that is   
   still being appealed to the top seems premature.   
      
   ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTATION TAKES LESS SPACE THAN PAPER   
      
   Canada now objects to electronic service by plaintiffs:   
       Although Canada has not objected to electronic service   
       of motions by several of the individual plaintiffs in   
       these matters, Canada's email servers are subject to   
       strict data size limits which would be quickly exceeded   
       if all 286 plaintiffs in these matters were to serve   
       written representations electronically.   
      
   That they have enough space in their filing cabinets to   
   store paper documentation but "Canada's email servers are   
   subject to strict data size limits which would be quickly   
   exceeded if all 286 plaintiffs in these matters were to   
   serve written representations electronically" is erroneous.   
   Their servers could not be exhausted by 286 files. If so,   
   they should open a free Gmail or Yahoo account.   
      
   Since electronic service of 286 files cannot exhaust the   
   storage on their servers, then the real reason must simply   
   be to put bureaucratic obstacles in the way of the patients   
   who want to file a response.   
      
   I would ask that this Court await the result of the final   
   disposition of the Lead Plaintiff's Application for Leave to   
   Appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada before making any   
   Direction requiring my responses to the Defendant's request.   
   ______________________________   
   Steve Vetricek   
   Cc: Wendy Wright Fax: 416-973-0809   
      
   Yesterday Jeff received:   
      
   Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0H9   
   October 15, 2019   
   BY ELECTRONIC MAIL   
      
   Mr. Allan J. Harris Mrs Wendy Wright Mr. Jon Bricker   
      
   RE: ALLAN J. HARRIS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN   
   Court File No. T-1379-17   
      
   This will confirm Direction of Justice Brown dated October   
   15, 2019.   
       "The Court has the Defendant's letter of October 3,   
       2019. This request for relief will be proceeded until   
       the time for the Plaintiff to seek leave to appeal to   
       the Supreme Court of Canada, or advise he will not seek   
       leave, has expired which appears to be November 18,   
       2019. The parties are to advise the Court of   
       developments in this respect."   
      
   JCT: So the good news is that no one has to file anything   
   right now and when they do, Steve will become Lead Plaintiff   
   #2 until Jeff gets back with our wins.   
      
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