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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: MedPot Steve Vetricek replies to    |
|    25 Feb 20 07:43:00    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              JCT: The Crown is trying to get the Court to dismiss       everyone's actions because the judge had named Jeff Harris       as Lead Plaintiff and his case was thrown out by the Court       of Appeal. But Igor Mozajko has his own case and is pointing       out the errors in Harris. But the Crown still wants the       Court to dismiss before Mozajko is heard. Steve replied:              Steve Vetricek       Feb 24 2020              Dear Registrar               Re: VETRICEK, Steve v. HMTQ File No: T-1371-18              Could you please place this response to the Defendant's       Feb 20 2020 reply to my Jan 20 and Jan 30 2020 filings       before the Case Management Judge Brown.              1. The Defendant argues:        In submissions dated Jan 20 2020, the plaintiff notes        that others have recently filed claims containing        additional facts. However, these facts are not contained        in the plaintiff's own claim containing additional        facts.              2. I am not yet not relying on the new facts of the latest       plaintiffs, I'm relying on Mozajko proving those new facts       are not even needed. Should his appeal court adjudge those       new facts necessary, I would then ask that my claim be       deemed amended to replicate the claims of new plaintiffs.              3. Crown states:        the latest claims by other plaintiffs since October 2019        do not address the defects noted by the Federal Court of        Appeal in Harris.              4. No court has yet ruled on whether the suggested defects       are addressed by the latest amendment.              5. The Defendant argues:        the plaintiff has identified no error in the Harris        appeal decision that would warrant a different result in        Mozajko.              6. I have not identified any errors in the Harris appeal       decision because Mozajko's Memorandum is due to be filed by       Feb 28 2020 that will identify those errors:       1) The right to grow is established by the right to a grow       permit from S.33 of the Cannabis Regulations;       2) There are sufficient facts to establish the delay and       Chaoulli ruled delays in medication violate rights;       3) Plaintiffs should not need to show alternatives;       4) Inevitable delay v objectionable additional delay;       5) Court of Appeal had wrong Statement of Claim with ACMPR,       not the latest Cannabis Act format;       6) Seek restitution of full period.       7) No Notice of Constitutional Question! Two Justices       Pelletier and Gauthier on the Harris "150-gram cap" appeal       court raised the issue that there had been no Notice of       Constitutional Question for the Crown motion to strike a       constitutional claim. Justice Gauthier said: "The       constitutionality must be argued to some extent if the Crown       says the claim of unconstitutionality is frivolous." The       Crown saying that the facts do not show a constitutional       violation is as constitutional an argument as me saying that       the facts do show a constitutional violation.              7. Defendant argues:        The Federal Court of Appeal struck the Harris claim on        the grounds...that the requested declarations concerning        the former ACMPR were in any event meaningless.              8. Though this is true, the Appeal Book did not contain the       amended Statement of Claim which this court allowed to refer       to the Cannabis Act and Regulations instead of the ACMPR.              9. Crown states:        In his Jan 20 submissions, the plaintiff notes that        others have recently filed claims that contain        additional facts and seek declarations concerning the        current Cannabis Regulations rather than the former        ACMPR.              10. Though true that all the latest claims refer to the       right regime, so do many of the earlier claims since the       amendment for the Lead Plaintiff's amendment was granted and       the template was then upgraded. I'm hoping my action is       deemed amended as the Lead Plaintiff's claim was amended.              11. Defendant argues:        that the Federal Court rules to not permit him to make        submissions on behalf of others.              12. Now that Mr. Harris has been removed as Lead Plaintiff,       I would submit that since I am the only plaintiff who has       filed a response, I should be named Lead Plaintiff and, as       with Harris, what happens to my action may apply to the       actions of the others.              13. Defendant argues:        The only additional "facts" in the new claims are two        check-boxes in which a plaintiff may indicate either        that they cannot afford commercially produced cannabis        or that they want to avoid taxes and shipping costs.              14. It also mentions they want their own strains without       pesticides and irradiation.              15. Defendant states:        but still do not contain facts to explain show how the        alleged inability to access medication engages the        plaintiff's life, liberty or security of the person.              15. Mozajko is raising the Chaoulli precedent that delays in       medication violate rights so he shouldn't have to prove it       again.              16. Defendant argues:        the new facts do not show that the registration-        processing time in each plaintiff's case is not in        accordance with the principles of fundamental justice..              17. No new facts are needed to show that the registration-       processing time is not in accordance with the principles of       fundamental justice, just the dates of medical       authorization, issuance, and expiry. Affordability should be       irrelevant. The claims do state the extra time delay is not       in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.              18. Defendant cites:        The Harris appeal decision also notes that production        necessarily involves delay while waiting for plants to        mature and produce a useable product. As in Harris, the        new claims contain no facts to explain how the        additional delay associated with the registration        process violates each plaintiff's S.7 rights.              19. Mozajko has challenged the notion that inevitable       systemic delay mitigates extra waiting due to bureaucratic       short-staffing inefficiencies.              20. Crown notes:        By orders dated Nov 24 and Dec 11, 2017, this Court        stayed the other claims pending Harris, and ordered that        determinations made in the Harris claim "shall be used        to determine" the remaining actions. The Harris claim        having been struck, the plaintiff now requests that the        Court further stay his claim pending the Mozajko appeal.        This request should be refused.        The Mozajko claim is substantially identical to the        Harris claim, and Mr. Mozajko has acknowledged that the        issues on appeal are similarly identical.              21. Though the Crown exhibit relies on a March 13 2019       statement that the issues on appeal were similarly identical       with those of Harris, the fact a new Memorandum has been       allowed should rebut any notion that with the same issues              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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