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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Issues to Covid Restrictions Cas    |
|    02 Mar 21 04:06:35    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              TURMEL: Issues to Covid Restrictions Case Management Judge              JCT: I've reported on the order of Case Management Judge       Aylen to 10 plaintiffs. We are today 57. I've responded:              John C. Turmel, B.Eng.,              Tuesday Mar 2 2021       VIA EMAIl              Chief Administrator       Courts Administration Service       fc_reception_cf@cas-satj.gc.ca              Dear Sir or Madam:               re: John Turmel v. HMTQ T-130-21              Could you please place this letter before Case Management       Judge Aylen:               "The parties shall, by no later than March 5, 2021,        provide their availability for a case management        conference (by Zoom - audio only) during the week of        March 8, 2021.        The purpose of the case management conference will be to        address the following:        (a) Whether the parties consent to T-130-21 being the        lead file, with the balance of the files held in        abeyance and bound by the outcome of any determinations        in T-130-21.              I cannot advise the other plaintiffs to be bound by the       outcome of any determination of the Lead Plaintiff's       original T-130-21 file.              In the ongoing "delsc" claims for damages due to grow permit       processing delays before Justice Brown, any time any       additional facts or arguments appeared, they was       incorporated into later Statement of Claim templates.              Later "delsc2" Statements claimed not just the cannabis that       was not produced during the delay but also added the lost       site rent.              Later Statements claimed for the restitution of the       processing time subtracted off the permit which was       adjudicated when Judge Brown permitted the Lead Plaintiff's       claim be amended to the updated version.              The latest "delsc8" claim included an affirmation that the       Court of Appeal found lacking. Both an original delsc and an       updated delsc8 edition are still before Judge Brown.              So I cannot advise anyone to be bound by a persuasive       decision on an original claim when there is a good chance       later claims will be improved.              I will advise any plaintiffs who can't attend the zoom call       to email their consent to a stay pending a decision on the       Lead Plaintiff but not to be bound by it.              (b) The timetable for the Crown's motion to strike.       (c) The timetable for the Crown's motion for security for       costs (if necessary)."              I have no comment on timetables other than to follow the       timetables in the rules.              Other issues not yet addressed are:              a) Canada's request for leave to seek relief by way of a       single motion to one plaintiff and not the others that would       be applicable to all of the proceedings has been consented       to as long as the other plaintiffs receive all documentation       by email before ceding right to be served personally with       relevant documents. I would further ask that the Court order       that Defendant provide Lead Plaintiff with the list of       plaintiff emails, say once a week.              b) The Defendant notes the parties may also require other       procedural directions as the parties may also require other       procedural directions as these claims unfold, that case-       management would also be consistent with the Court's       approach to past claims downloaded from the same website as       the current claims.              The past approach was to email the document to the       Defendant, Efile it, and under service, submit a pdf of the       metadata from "sent" email, and thirdly upload a letter       requesting Judge Brown okay the email metadata rather than       an affidavit of service. He always granted use of the       metadata. I would ask the Court keep Steps 1 and 2 but skip       Step 3, a letter to the judge asking to allow the metadata.              c) The Defendant notes some plaintiffs have previous unpaid       judgments and ask that security be posted. Considering the       no-cash cost of emailling out a copy of the documentation,       those plaintiffs could then decide if it is worth putting up       security after the first case is decided.              Dated at Brantford on Tuesday Mar 2 2021.       _________________________       John C. Turmel              JCT: For the response about the zoom meeting:              If you can't be bothered, just send an email back to the       court, it's in the heading of my previous letter, saying any       day is fine with you but that you shall not attend but do       consent to Lead Plaintiff being appointed and having your       action stayed but not bound by it if you get a copy of the       documentation emailled to you.              You also consent to other procedural matters.              Of course, if you want to hear the call, just email that       you're ready.              I don't know what they're going to do with the other 47       plaintiffs not involved at this point. In the past, new       plaintiffs got the Order of the court staying cases until       the Lead is done added to everyone's file. Probably again.              So funny we're to discuss the motion timetable when it's in       the rules? Lots of our requests she didn't look at yet.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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