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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Crown seeks to nix 150-gram cap     |
|    16 Mar 21 00:25:34    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              JCT: In my last post on the 150-gram cap challenge, I       mentioned Jeff Harris, Lead Plaintiff for 36 high-dose       plaintiffs, had reached the Supreme Court of Canada with       this introduction:              TURMEL: Harris 150-gram cap exemption to Supreme Court       https://groups.google.com/g/alt.fan.john-turmel/c/UXF5_b7UNnw/m/yz0hNLltCAAJ       In 2014, Federal Court Justice Manson changed the possession       limit from "30-day supply" like all other drugs to "30-day       supply to a max of 150 grams."       In 2015, 4 high-dosers from BC were granted an exemption to       carry a 10-day supply in "Garber."       Last year, Federal Court Judge Brown dismissed a Crown       motion to strike Lead Plaintiff Jeff Barris' action to       strike the 150-gram cap leaving the 30-day supply and       granted Jeff an interim exemption to carry a 10-day supply       like Garber.       This year, the Federal Court of Appeal (Woods, Pelletier,       Gauthier) overturned the decision to allow the action to       strike the cap to proceed and cancelled the interim 10-day       supply exemption.              JCT: The neat part is they did not comment on the Garber       precedent being relied on. Keep in mind, another Superior       Court judge with the same power as a Federal Court judge to       strike down bad laws granted exemptions to this bad law. And       now so did Brown. And then these three higher judges       overturned Brown without explaining why he was wrong to       follow Cullen in Garber. About as shady a duck possible.       The arguments I prepared:              B) "AUTHORIZATION" AND "DOSAGE" ARE SUFFICIENT FACTS              15. Judge Brown noted that he only needed to know that       Harris was Authorized for 100 grams/day like Boivin to find       the same relevant facts were sufficient too. Of course, many       irrelevant personal facts must differ. Because both Harris       and Boivin suffered the exact same oppression due to the       exact same dosage, Judge Brown found the relevant facts on       all fours and granted the same remedy as granted to Boivin       by Cullen J. Yet this court says the facts were not       sufficient to reach those conclusions.              JCT: They said they didn't seen enough facts after the first       judges had said they did!              C) GARBER V. HMTQ IS VALID PRECEDENT              16. The purpose of a precedent is to set out how a situation       should be handled. Brown accepted Garber as a valid       precedent with the same facts and thus ruled the same.              17. Garber provided all the personal patient testimony       showing the effects of the unconstitutional deprivations       from the cap on high-dosers. Garber had the Manson Allard       interim decision imposing the 150 gram cap based on Health       Canada estimates of between 1-3 grams/day, 2g/day average!       In the same paragraph, noting the actual prescribed Canadian       average dosage was 17.7 grams/day!. The cap was based on an       average 9 times too low.              18. Though the Applicant's requested exemption was exactly       "substantially the same" as the exemption granted to Boivin       in Garber which was based on extensive evidence showing       their medical circumstances, etc., The Crown noted in their       Memorandum Para. 93:        93. The Motions Judge also noted the requested exemption        was "substantially the same" as the exemption granted in        Garber. However, Garber is distinguishable. It was based        on extensive evidence from the Garber plaintiffs        concerning their medical circumstances, their        experience using cannabis and other treatments, and how        they were personally affected by the possession limits        pending trial. There was no similar evidence in this        case.              19. Judge Brown did not need to hear evidence of the same       effects of the cap on the same dosage patient again. Knowing       the Days Equation works the same for both patient facts, he       could follow the Garber Precedent. Judge Brown did not need       to hear all the woes again, he had read them. With a       precedent, the Court of Appeal shouldn't need the personal       details either. Yet the Court of Appeal has ruled failure to       proffer similar personal evidence of those same woes is       fatal to the cause in this court if successful in B.C.              20. The Court did not address the Garber decision and chose       to focus on other decisions unrelated to the 150-gram cap.       The Court notes the ample detail provided in Parker and       Allard whose personal deprivations have nothing to do with       any dosage cap at all while failing to heed the Garber       precedent which did deal with the dosage cap!              21. The Court fails to deal with the Garber decision of       Cullen J which is most on all fours with this case. He       looked at patient evidence and found the cap an       unconstitutional violation not in accordance with       fundamental justice which he remedied. Justice Brown looked       at the same relevant facts (minus the personal same woes)       and found the cap an unconstitutional violation not in       accordance with fundamental justice which he remedied in       exactly the same way as was remedied in Garber.              22. Without any reasons, this Court rules Cullen J. was       wrong in Garber and Brown J. in error to follow the Garber       Precedent.              23. Justices Cullen granted remedy from the unconstitutional       deprivation he found the cap imposed on a 100 gram/day       patient and Justice Brown ruled there was a chance the       deprivation he found the cap imposed on his 100 gram/day       patient might be ruled unconstitutional too.              24. Justices Woods, Pelletier and Gauthier say there is zero       chance of Federal Court finding similar deprivations without       citing any error in Justice Cullen's decision. They       completely contradicted a precedent Brown J. followed       without giving any reason why Garber should not have been       followed.              JCT: You have to admit, it's a beautiful case. They focused       on Parker and Allard and missed Garber! Har har har har har       har. Two judges in two jurisdictions, federal and provincial       superior, say the law is bad and these three feds say their       fed judge was wrong to follow the Provincial Superior judge       without saying why!              Sadly, there were a couple of foul-ups. I put the wrong       Section number on one document header, and Jeff didn't       include all the transcripts. I had assured Jeff that you       just had to get the Application filed and they'd then give       you time to fix any errors or omissions. So they wrote back       telling us the change and the missing but also requested a       motion for an extension of time.              This was kind of new. I have been late in submitting an       Application, Jeff was not, and had been forced to include       the motion for the extension of time which are inevitably       granted by the Court in dismissing the application.       "Extension of time granted, application dismissed" was the       standard format. But some earlier medpot applicants had              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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