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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Asking Covid Case Management Jud    |
|    18 Mar 21 19:14:53    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              TURMEL: Asking Covid Case Management Judge for no stays              JCT: So the Covid 19 Apple Orange Resistance challenge has       gotten bogged down on the Crown's attempt to cut all       plaintiffs out of the proceeedings until mine is over. I       consented as long as they gave them a copy of the       documentation but when they said they would not and the       judge said she couldn't force them, we decided to not have a       lead plaintiff like was done before.              John C. Turmel, B.Eng.,              Mar 18 2021              Court Administrator               re: T-130-21 TURMEL: John Turmel              Dear Sir/Madam:              Would you please put this email response to the Mar 11 2021       Direction before Case Management Judge Aylen.              In 2014, half of Canada's 36,000 cannabis patients had their       permits invalidated. A group of over 300 filed suit to get       their permits back proffering their previous Health Canada       Authorization as proof of medical need. Justice Phelan was       appointed Case Management Judge and on April 29 2014, he       presided over an "unprecedented, remarkable, extraordinary"       teleconferenced hearing in 10 provinces in 12 courthouses.       No Lead Plaintiff was named and all 315 names are on the       Style of Cause;       https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/218251/1/document.do        BETWEEN:        "In the matter of numerous filings seeking a declaration        pursuant to s 52(1) of the Canadian Charter of Rights        and Freedoms"               MOTION IN WRITING CONSIDERED AT OTTAWA, ONTARIO,        ORDER AND REASONS:        PHELAN J.        DATED: JANUARY 11, 2017        WRITTEN REPRESENTATIONS BY: John Turmel        FOR THE PLAINTIFF (T-488-14)        Jon Bricker FOR THE DEFENDANT               [44] For all these reasons, the motion is granted. The        Court will issue an Order that:        a) all of the claims/application listed are struck        without leave to amend; and        b) no costs being requested, no costs will be granted.        (It is doubtful under the circumstances if the Court        would have granted costs.)              No plaintiff but me submitted written representations but       the decision applied to all when they did not submit a reply       without any need for a Lead Plaintiff.              That style of cause is now listed as:        "subsection 52(1) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and        Freedoms" and the listing the 316 files.              Since our current actions are also under "subsection 52(1)       of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms," that group       title cannot be used again. Should a new title be sought, I       would note that our Facebook Page is titled: APPLE ORANGE       RESISTANCE. So a preferred style of cause might be:        BETWEEN:        "In the matter of numerous APPLE ORANGE RESISTANCE        filings seeking a declaration pursuant to s 52(1) of the        Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms"              In 2016, another group of cannabis patients filed templates       for damages due to long delays in processing medpot grow       applications. Justice Brown was appointed Case Management       Judge. He named one plaintiff Lead and I was derelict in not       realizing that the other plaintiffs would not be kept       apprised while the Lead Plaintiff's action was pursued.              Canada has noted as a precedent that no plaintiffs in that       second group were kept apprised. I submitted we don't want       that happening again.              I had consented to Canada's request to file a motion to       strike on one lead plaintiff with the pre-requisite that the       other plaintiffs would be emailed the documentation of the       Lead case. The Crown has refused to email a copy       TO the others and this Court had found it cannot impose such       a burden on an unwilling Defendant.              If Judge Phelan's management could keep all plaintiffs on       the style of cause and thus fully informed, then that is the       right way to proceed here now that Canada has stated its       unwillingness to send a copy of the documentation to other       plaintiffs.       John Turmel              JCT: Only 10 of us were originally polled on whether we       wanted a Lead Plaintiff to make the case and let it be       persuasive in the others'.              I don't know anyone who has chosen to be stayed so it looks       like the Crown blew it in not aggreeing to email a copy to       the others and now will have to prepare 60 individual       motions for each of us. Har har har har har har.              Sure, merging a letter with an email list doesn't take a       rocket scientist so it's not much work to serve everyone.       And so, what's the purpose of trying to duck so little work?       in ducking a CC: with a list of emails?              The only reason I can fathom for the request to save them       almost no time is simply to make sure that most plaintiff       remain uninformed. Can you think of another gain for       the Crown?              And it does waste time, and with people dying from lockdown,       the longer they can stall, the more blood on their hands. If       that's their true goal. What else?              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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