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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Gisele Pilon Action dismissed bu    |
|    30 Mar 21 20:11:24    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              TURMEL: Gisele Pilon Action dismissed but scored 6-day medpot permit              JCT: Gisele Pilon applied for an exemption, started early       and got busted 3 months later. She's asking for an exemption       retroactive to when Health Canada should have processed it.              Crown moved for dismissal, she responded, the Mozajko Court       of Appeal decision came down negative, Crown mentioned it in       their Reply. She wants to respond to the new evidence. Judge       Brown let her ask, Crown responded, she filed her Reply and       Judge Brown handed down his decision:              Date: 20210329              Ottawa, Ontario, March 29, 2021              PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Brown       Docket: T-193-21              BETWEEN:        GISELE PILON        Plaintiff        and        HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN        Defendant        ORDER              Brown J.: UPON INFORMAL MOTION in writing without personal       appearance by the Plaintiff for leave to file a sur-reply in       connection with the Defendant's motion to dismiss this       action, Judgment for which was issued on February 15, 2021;              AND UPON considering that:              1. By letter dated February 3, 2021, the Defendant wrote to       ask that this action be dismissed because the statement of       claim here is substantially similar to the statement of       claim in Harris v Canada, 2019 FCA 232, which the Federal       Court of Appeal struck without leave to amend because it       failed to disclose a reasonable cause of action. This Court       has subsequently dismissed other such actions on this same       basis. The Defendant also sought costs of $250.00.              2. By Direction dated February 4, 2021, I gave the Plaintiff       time to file a response to the Defendant's letter, and       allowed time thereafter for the Defendant to reply.              3. The Plaintiff filed a response to the Defendant's       informal motion to dismiss on February 5, 2021. The       Defendant filed a written reply dated February 11, 2021, as       authorized by my Direction.              4. Pleadings were therefore closed.              5. Judgment was issued on February 15, 2021, dismissing       this action with costs.              6. By subsequent letter, the Plaintiff, without asking the       Court's permission, filed additional submissions, and was in       effect also seeking reconsideration under Rule 397 of the       Federal Courts Rules [Rules] SOR/2004-283 in that she sought       to reverse the dismissal of the action.              7. Thus, in my view the Plaintiff is seeking to file sur-       reply which was not permitted in the February 4, 2021       Direction, and seeks to do so after Judgment has been       delivered in this case, and the underlying action has been       dismissed.              8. The requested post-Judgment relief will not be considered       unless the Plaintiff satisfies me it is justified, per my       Direction dated February 18, 2021.              9. The Plaintiff subsequently filed an informal letter       requesting leave to file the sur-reply, the Defendant has       responded, and the Plaintiff has filed a reply letter.              10. In my view, the root issue is whether the sur-reply       filing is warranted. In my respectful view, the Plaintiff's       request is unfounded.              JCT: I have to bet not. My life's court strategy has been to       never ask for more than what's exactly fair (and who can       estimate that best?). So every loss is a denial of fairness       if you didn't ask for too much.              A most famous example was cited by Judge Brown in his       granting Lead Plaintiff action to strike the 150-gram cap on       medical marijuana possession and a 10-day carry pending       trial.              In the Allard case, John Conroy had asked to strike the       "150-gram cap and 30-day supply." The Allard Judge pointed       out it was an over-reach and Judge pointed out we had only       asked to strike the 150-gram cap and not the 30-day limit in       previous legislation. As he let the challenge in, we weren't       trying to scrap the whole section like Conroy had, just       the cap.              I'm sure when history reads my cases in the Court archives,.       every judge who dismissed the claim failed in rendering       justice. A wall of shame. Usual card: Insufficiently shown.              Brown J.: 11. A responding party has the opportunity to make       their case when it responds to a motion. The Plaintiff did       this, and the Defendant, as moving party, has answered it in       a reply. Now the Plaintiff wishes to add more responding       material, known as a sur-reply which is material filed by a       responding party after the moving party has filed its reply,       which in the normal course closes pleadings.              12. There are at least three reasons the Plaintiff may not       file sur-reply in this case. First, no such permission was       granted in my Direction of February 18, 2021. Second, no       such permission is set out in the Rules governing motions in       writing.              13. In addition and more generally, to prevent a responding       party from splitting their case, and to bring an end to       litigation, a responding party must make their case fully in       their response to the motion, and may not file additional       submissions thereafter without leave. In my view, sur-reply       is not available in respect of any matter that could or       should have been addressed by the responding party's       response to the initial filing, and particularly not after a       decision has been made on the matter.              JCT: But the moving party is not supposed to bring up new       evidence... was the point made. They broke the rules to take       advantage of new evidence and we're breaking the rules       trying to reverse it! Sadly. They had already gotten away       with their violation and we had not.              Brown J.: 14. I am not persuaded that either my Judgment       dated February 15, 2021 or Rule 369 governing motions dealt       with in writing should be varied in this case. What the       Plaintiff wishes to address in the sur-reply, could and in       my view should have been fully set out in the Plaintiff's       response to the motion. It is too late now.              15. I will add that I have reviewed the Plaintiff's proposed       sur-reply submissions and even if I allowed them to be       filed, it would not change the decision reflected in the       Judgment of February 15, 2021, dismissing this action.              JCT: Sadly, the righteousness of the decision may still be       put to the test. I'll posting this over at the ACMPR       grower' group where I quoted a few who were suffering long       delays.              They all have potential delsc8 claims with the gaps filled       so that the Mozajko decision doesn't really matter. The new       claims don't have the maybe-problem in the delsc7 claims.              And if they can't throw out their delsc8 claims because       Mozajko doesn't count any more, he really shouldn't have       thrown her out.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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