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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Renee Cyr Factum against $130K F    |
|    23 Apr 21 16:34:11    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              TURMEL: Renee Cyr Factum against $130K Forfeit for 9 pounds pot              JCT: At about $700 per pound, Renee Cyr got busted at       home with 9 pounds of pot and and they're seizing       $130,000 in her property.              Forfeiture is being used against people convicted of       pot growing offences, going after their homes, and       getting them. But they made a mistake with Renee, not       getting a conviction before going for the house.              Today, she served her Appeal Factum on the Crown:              CANADA       PROVINCE OF QUEBEC       DISTRICT DE MONTREAL COURT OF APPEAL       C.A.: 500-09-029318-219               Judgment of Frediric Bachand, J.C.S.,        Cour Superieure District of Terrebonne        on Dec 29 2020 700-17-014606-171               Renee Cyr        APPELLANT - Defendant        RESPONDENT in Cross-Appeal               -and-               Attorney General for Quebec        RESPONDENT - Plaintiff        CROSS-APPELLANT               APPELLANT'S FACTUM        Renee Cyr        Apr 23 2021              PART I - FACTS              1. On Dec 6 2016, the Appellant was charged with S.7       Production of cannabis and S.5(2) Possession for the Purpose       of Trafficking which allows recourse to a jury trial.              2. A civil action was commenced to forfeit proceeds from       "illegal activity."              3. The criminal charges were later withdrawn.              4. On Dec 29 2020, Superior Court Justice Bachand granted a       Forfeiture Order under S.7 & S.8 al. 1 Lois sur la       confiscation for 50% of the Appellant's plot worth $129,500       and residence $128,100 without there having been registered       a conviction for any illegal activity.              5. In Para. 66, Judge Bachand noted the Crown:       - never alleged she directly participated, only alleged she       knew or should have known;       - criminal charges against her were withdrawn;       - evidence cannot link her to any criminalized group;       - evidence doens't even show she directly profited from       illegal activities;       - nothing indicates her large plot on which her home is       located served in some way the pursuit of these activities.              6. The title of the Judgment itself says "Civil confiscation       - instrument used in illegal activities!"              7. In Para. 4: S.7 al. 1 Lois sur la confiscation says:        7. The court grants the forfeiture application if it is        convinced that the property is the proceeds or an        instrument of unlawful activity.              8. In Para. 5: "for illegal activities."              9. In Para. 6: "demonstrated criminal activities."              10. In Para. 56: S.8 al. 1 Lois sur la confiscation:        8. When ruling on the forfeiture application...        the value of the part of the forfeited property        that is derived from illegal activity.              11. In Para. 60: Michelle Gallant mentions:       - instruments of crime;       - proceeds of crime;       - resources derived from crime;       - proceeds of crime;       - instruments of crime;       - instruments of crime;       - linked to some criminal offence;       - criminal allegations;              12. Seizure is aimed at instruments of illegal activity.              PART II - ISSUES IN DISPUTE              13. The trial judge erred on the following grounds:       A) No Jurisdiction without conviction for crime;       B) Should be No Jurisdiction without conviction for crime;       C) Seizure was excessive given value of marijuana seized.              PART III - ARGUMENT              A) NO JURISDICTION WITHOUT CONVICTION              14. The trial judge erred in law in deciding the court had       jurisdiction to treat with the proceeds of illegal activity       without any determination that illegal activity took place.       This error of law is overriding because jurisdiction for       forfeiture is predicated on illegal activity being       established upon conviction for the crime and it has not       been so established herein. Jurisdiction to determine       whether illegal activity had taken place was with a Criminal       Court Judge and Jury and not one Civil Court Judge alone.              15. On Oct 7 2003, in Hitzig v. HMTQ, in Paragraph 170, the       Ontario Court of Appeal ruled that fixing the medical       exemption had resurrected the S.4(1) Possession prohibition       that had been invalid over the previous 2 years while the       exemption had been malfunctioning since Aug 1 2001. In Dec       2003, 4,000 charges were withdrawn in Dec 2003. Given the       new prohibition, that "to establish medical need is to be       simply exempt." Appellant never had the chance to be       acquitted by establishing medical need to a jury.              B) SHOULD BE NO JURISDICTION WITHOUT CONVICTION              16. The process claims to determine civil punishment for       criminal activities. Appellant submits it doesn't matter how       criminal the matter looks to the civil judge, it takes the       jurisdiction of a criminal court jury to officially       determine how criminal what looks criminal upon first       inspection really is.              17. Even if such jurisdiction to forfeit assets without       prior conviction for illegal activity has been exercised in       the past, Appellant submits no asset forfeiture should be       constitutional lacking establishment of illegal activity. A       Forfeiture Order without conviction for illegal activity.              C) EXCESSIVE PUNISHMENT              18. Appellant now has a medical permit to grow over one       pound a week to satisfy a 69-gram/day prescription. The 9       pounds seized in the raid represent 9 weeks of medication,       barely one crop cycle, valued at $700/pound in today's       prices. In an era where the use of large quantities of       marijuana to assuage ailments is now accepted and where       there is no longer any limit on home storage allowing bumper       crops to no longer pose penal threat, Appellant submits that       asset forfeiture of $128,800 for the possession of the under       $7,000 worth of marijuana is unconstitutionally and       excessively arbitrary contrary to the principles of       fundamental justice in violating the S.12 Charter Right not       to be subjected to any cruel and unusual punishment.              PART IV - CONCLUSION SOUGHT:              19. The Appellant will ask the Court to       a) ALLOW the appeal;       b) SET ASIDE the first instance judgment; or       c) REDUCE the percentage forfeited.       d) CONDEMN the respondent to pay the appellant legal costs       both in the first instance and on appeal.               ATTESTATION              Appellant attests that the factum is in compliance with       Rules of the Court.               TIME REQUESTED FOR HEARING       Appellant requests a hearing of 1 hour.               CONSENT FOR ORAL HEARING       Appellant consents that the appeal be decided on the       basis of the factums without an oral hearing.              Dated at Saint Jerome on Apr 23 2021.              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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