From: johnsadumbass@gmail.com   
      
   John claims to be such a big shot and has helped out so many with his wins in   
   courts....yet he has zero to his name.  he touts his 4,000 charges being   
   dropped but if you look into that, he was not the only on involved.  it was a   
   team effort that no one    
   considered him part of the team.  he claims to have spearheaded it.  If you   
   know anything about John Turmel, you know he is not able to do that.  he is   
   not a team player.  it's all his or not at all.   
      
   I have done a few challenges for John and lost them all but says they are my   
   losses.  how is it possible they are mine when he refused to include points I   
   made that plug the holes and are stronger points.  in the 150 gram carry   
   challenge, I pointed out    
   that there's no cap on narcotics or benzos and we could focus on that. John,   
   not being a patient so he doesn't think like a patient-couldn't grasp this so   
   he didn't put in more to do with that.  he focused on his false stats and   
   reasons without providing    
   proof or evidence so it was tossed.  he could have won but chose to go for the   
   thorn in their side position instead of going in for the kill or win.   
   he said he'd pay for court costs but won't ask the balance for the interest so   
   I am stuck with paying that....nice John and thank you.     
   I put in a lot of time and effort in doing these challenges only to be treated   
   this way.  John posts lies about me refusing to file the delay challenge when   
   he knows it's not true.  he didn't get me the paperwork ion time for me to   
   file it.  he got it    
   ready the day it needed to be filed.  I have a life so I can't stop drop and   
   roll because he said i should. John posts that I refused to file the 150 gram   
   carry challenge as the delay stuff.  he agreed that Igor should take over   
   because he has a stronger    
   case...but then turns on me and lies and lies.   
      
   John said it was the "biggest mistake of my life" refusing his challenge but i   
   saw that it was also lost and more court costs have to be paid.  how was that   
   any kind of mistake?     
      
   John loses and then posts they are my loses.  I had zero input because John   
   wouldn't listen to the stronger points.  that is why I will never file   
   anything he writes again.  he yelled at me when I was complaining about never   
   winning and he finally came    
   out with it. he yelled "You weren't supposed to win!" and then went on about   
   what an adventure it would be.  he's not trying to win cases for us, he's just   
   trying to make noise.   
      
   when I was worried about court costs and saying I can't pay them, he told me   
   it wouldn't be a problem because he'd take up a collection. it was only $2500   
   (for the first one) and it wouldn't be a problem getting that from all he   
   helped.  then came time    
   to pay and it turned out he had no intention of taking up a collection. he   
   simply lied because he said he'd pay for it.  this coming from a guy who is   
   against paying banks interest but it either OK to pay it to the Government or   
   stiff the guy who fought    
   for him.   
      
   Anyone who has any faith in John Turmel is on the losing side. look at what I   
   have done for him and then look how he turned on me and then the lies.   
      
   John doesn't care about anyone than himself and he is proud of how big a   
   failure he is.  I put my faith in him to help patients in this cannabis fight   
   but John Turmel-the guy who claims to have the same education as Spock-a   
   fictional character from outer    
   space. that will always make me laugh.  did he commute for his Vulcan   
   education?  did he do it online?  does he speak Vulcan or did he have a   
   translator? did they teach him to drink piss on Vulcan? so many unanswered   
   questions.     
      
   don't put your faith in this guy that he is on your side.  he has proven   
   beyond a shadow of a doubt that his is not to be trusted in that way   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)