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   John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All   
   TURMEL: Court denies Crown request for a   
   08 Mar 23 11:59:00   
   
   From: johnturmel@gmail.com   
      
   JCT: On February 6, 2023, the Crown asked to have my appeal   
   treated as a specially managed appeal:   
      
   Department of Justice   
   Ontario Regional Office   
   National Litigation Sector   
   120 Adelaide Street West Suite #400   
   Toronto, ON M5H 1T1   
   Telephone/Tiliphone: 647-256-7473   
   Fax/Tilicopieur: 416-973-0809   
   Email/Courriel: Jon.Bricker@justice.gc.ca   
      
   February 6, 2023   
      
   VIA ELECTRONIC FILING   
      
   Federal Court of Appeal   
   180 Queen Street West   
   Toronto, Ontario M5V 1Z4   
   FCARegistry-CAFGreffe@cas-satj.gc.ca   
      
   CR: Dear Registry,   
      
   Re: John Turmel v Her Majesty the Queen, File No. A-265-22   
      
   I am writing on behalf of the respondent, the Attorney   
   General of Canada (incorrectly named as "Her Majesty the   
   Queen," and hereinafter referred to as "Canada"), to request   
   that the above noted appeal continue as a specially managed   
   proceeding pursuant to Rule 384 of the Federal Courts Rules.   
      
   Canada intends to bring a motion in the course of this   
   appeal for an order under s. 40 of the Federal Courts Act   
   declaring the appellant, John Turmel, a vexatious litigant   
   in the Federal Court of Appeal, and for other consequential   
   relief.   
      
   JCT: So  do they want this appeal to be barred?   
      
   CR: Canada intends to seek procedural directions or orders   
   concerning this motion, including directions or orders   
   concerning the evidence to be used, the format of written   
   representations, the hearing of this motion, and the   
   timetable for these steps.   
      
   JCT: Sure seems like a lot of nothing. They already have   
   their evidence on record, what more do they need? How would   
   they want to change the format of written representations?   
   What special direction do they need on the hearing? And   
   timetable?   
      
   CR: In addition, Canada intends to request an order amending   
   the style of cause in this matter to correctly name the   
   respondent. Canada requests that this matter continue as a   
   specially managed proceeding, and that the Chief Justice   
   assign a judge pursuant to Rule 383.1, to act as case   
   management judge to consider these requests for procedural   
   relief.   
   Sincerely,   
   Jon Bricker   
   Senior Counsel, National Litigation Sector   
   cc John Turmel, Appellant   
      
   JCT: On Feb 28, the Crown added:   
      
   Department of Justice   
   Ontario Regional Office   
   National Litigation Sector   
   120 Adelaide Street West Suite #400   
   Toronto, ON M5H 1T1   
   Telephone/Tiliphone: 647-256-7473   
   Fax/Tilicopieur: 416-973-0809   
   Email/Courriel: Jon.Bricker@justice.gc.ca   
      
   February 28, 2023   
   VIA ELECTRONIC FILING   
      
   Federal Court of Appeal   
   180 Queen Street West   
   Toronto, Ontario M5V 1Z4   
   FCARegistry-CAFGreffe@cas-satj.gc.ca   
      
   Dear Registry,   
   Re: John Turmel v Her Majesty the Queen, File No. A-265-22   
      
   I am writing on behalf of the respondent, the Attorney   
   General of Canada (incorrectly named as Her Majesty the   
   Queen," and hereinafter referred to as "Canada"), to request   
   that the Court kindly expedite Canadas previously submitted   
   request for case-management in this matter.   
      
   By letter dated February 6, 2023, Canada advised of its   
   intention to bring a motion for an order declaring the   
   appellant a vexatious litigant in the Federal Court of   
   Appeal (the "Motion"), and requested that the appeal   
   continue as a specially managed proceeding in order that   
   Canada could seek procedural directions or orders concerning   
   this motion.   
      
   Specifically, Canada intends to seek directions or orders:   
   1. Setting a timetable for the Motion;   
   2. Granting Canada leave to rely for the Motion on the   
   affidavit evidence filed in the Federal Court proceeding;   
   3. Granting Canada leave to serve and file a joint   
   Memorandum of Fact and Law and Written Representations   
   addressing both the appeal and the Motion;   
   4. That the Motion be heard orally, together with the   
   underlying appeal; and   
   5. Amending the style of cause to correctly name the   
   respondent.   
   On February 28, 2023, the Appellant served Canada with his   
   Memorandum of Fact and Law in the underlying appeal. As a   
   result, Canada's responding Memorandum of Fact and Law is   
   currently due on March 30, 2023.   
      
   As the procedural directions or orders that Canada intends   
   to seek would affect the content and timing of Canada's   
   Memorandum, Canada requests that the Court now kindly   
   expedite Canada's previously submitted request for case   
   management.   
   Sincerely,   
   Jon Bricker   
   Senior Counsel, National Litigation Sector   
   cc John Turmel, Appellant   
      
   JCT: Court of Appeal Justice Webb ruled:   
      
   TO : APPEAL REGISTRY   
   FROM : WEBB J.A.   
   DATE : March 6, 2023   
   RE : A-265-22: John Turmel v. His Majesty the King   
   _______________________________________________________________________   
      
                            DIRECTION   
      
   Webb: Mr. Turmel was declared a vexatious litigant in the   
   Federal Court by the Judgment of that Court dated November   
   9, 2022. This appeal is Mr. Turmel's appeal from that   
   Judgment.   
      
   By letter dated February 6, 2023, the respondent requested   
   that this appeal continue as a specially managed proceeding   
   pursuant to Rule 384 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-   
   106. In a subsequent letter dated February 28, 2023, the   
   respondent asked to have its request for case-management   
   considered on an expedited basis.   
      
   The reason cited for the expedited basis is that the   
   appellant served the respondent with his memorandum of fact   
   and law in this appeal on February 28, 2023. As a result,   
   the respondent's memorandum of fact and law in this appeal   
   must be filed on or before March 30, 2023.   
      
   The only remaining steps to be completed to have Mr.   
   Turmel's appeal heard are:   
   - serving and filing the respondent's memorandum of fact and   
   law (Rule 346(2));   
   - filing the book or books of authorities (Rule 348); and   
   - serving and filing the requisition for hearing (Rule 347).   
      
   Given the few steps remaining in this appeal, there is no   
   apparent justification for continuing this appeal as a   
   specially managed proceeding.   
      
   Rather than indicate any concerns with respect to Mr.   
   Turmel's appeal, the respondent indicates that the   
   justification for treating this appeal as a specially   
   managed proceeding is the respondent's proposed motion for   
   an order to declare Mr. Turmel a vexatious litigant in this   
   Court.   
      
   Simply indicating that a motion will be brought in an appeal   
   cannot justify having that appeal continue as a specially   
   managed proceeding.   
      
   The respondent has not yet brought the motion referred to   
   above. There is no indication that the Attorney General will   
   be seeking to prevent Mr. Turmel from continuing his appeal   
   to this Court.   
      
   Therefore, the respondent's memorandum of fact and law in   
   this appeal will still be required to be filed by March 30,   
      
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