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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Judge Laskin sticks with prematu    |
|    21 Jul 23 06:57:19    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              TURMEL: Judge Laskin sticks with premature Vexatious Litigant Order              JCT: The Crown had indicated that the motion to declare me a       Vexatious Litigant in the Court of Appeal after the panel       had ruled on the appeal and then filed the motion "in       writing" so one judge could do it all again. When he did, I       filed a motion for him to reconsider and withdraw his ruling       so the appeal panel could do it.              TO: Judicial Administrator       FROM: Laskin J.A.       DATE: July 20, 2023        RE: A-265-22 John Turmel v. His Majesty the King               DIRECTION       J: The appellant's motion record received June 22, 2023, the       respondent's responding motion record received July 4, 2023,       and the appellant's written representations in reply on       motion for reconsideration received July 10, 2023 shall be       accepted for filing.       "JBL"              JCT: I had 4 days to respond from Tuesday July 4. So my due       date was Saturday July 8. Since that was on a weekend, it       gets pushed off to Monday July 10. So I was on time and did       not need a Direction accepting it for filing.              Date: 20230720       Docket: A-265-22       Ottawa, Ontario, July 20, 2023              Present: LASKIN J.A.              BETWEEN:        JOHN TURMEL        Appellant        and        HIS MAJESTY THE KING        Respondent        ORDER              J: WHEREAS on November 9, 2022, the Federal Court made an       order under section 40 of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C.       1985, c. F-7, declaring the appellant to be a vexatious       litigant and, among other things, prohibiting the appellant       from instituting new proceedings in the Federal Court,       continuing any proceedings previously instituted by him in       the Federal Court, except with leave of the Court, and       preparing, distributing or disseminating court documents,       including template documents, for use by others in Federal       Court proceedings;              WHEREAS on December 9, 2022, the appellant commenced an       appeal to this Court from the Federal Court's order;              WHEREAS on June 15, 2023, on motion in writing by the       respondent in this appeal, to which the appellant filed no       response, this Court made a vexatious litigant order against       the appellant applicable to proceedings in this Court;              WHEREAS the appellant has brought a motion for       reconsideration of this Court's June 15, 2023 order on the       grounds that       (1) the respondent had stated his intention to seek an order       that the motion that resulted in the June 15, 2023 order be       heard orally together with the appeal,       (2) the respondent's written representations in seeking the       June 15, 2023 order were virtually identical to the       respondent's memorandum in the appeal, and              JCT: Which means this judge made a decision with arguments       of only one side without the benefit of mine.              (3) that the motion that resulted in the June 15, 2023 order       should have been heard after this appeal is heard, not       before;              JCT: Doesn't it make sense? If the Panel overturn the first       decision, what do they do about his newest one?              WHEREAS by rule 397 of the Federal Courts Rules, a motion       for reconsideration of an order may be brought only on the       grounds that       (1) the order does not accord with any reasons given for it,       (2) the court has in making the order overlooked or omitted       a matter that should have been dealt with, or              JCT: Overlooked my arguments...              J: (3) the order contains clerical mistakes or omissions;              JCT: Omitted my arguments which the Panel would have heard       before granting the Vexatious Litigant Order in the Court of       Appeal.              J: AND WHEREAS the appellant has failed to make out any of       these grounds,              JCT: I thought I had made them...              J: this Court was fully aware of the pending appeal when it       granted the June 15, 2023 order, and the appellant himself       bears responsibility for his decision not to file responding       representations on the motion that resulted in the June 15,       2023 order;              JCT: I bear responsibility for the Crown reneging on their       intent to have the motion heard by the panel hearing the       appeal so they could make Judge Laskin do all the work again       but without my input. The Crown reneged and I'm responsible       for not filing the same arguments again.              J: THIS COURT ORDERS that the motion is dismissed with costs       fixed at $1,000 all-inclusive. J.B. Laskin J.A.              JCT: So Judge Laskin just couldn't figure out why it should       have been dealt with the panel hearing both sides when he       was asked to do it hearing only one side. And he knew about       the appeal so he knew my memorandum arguments were available       but chose to rule without them.              If the panel rules against me, won't it be neat appealing to       the Supreme Court also appealing this premature decision.              But yes, I had thought that the written motion would be       handled by the panel and should have filed my memorandum       arguments here too so he could have left it to the panel.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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