XPost: alt.censorship, alt.non.racism, aus.legal
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From: reality@check.it
"Deadrat" wrote in message
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> Golden California Girls wrote in
> news:h3aph8$3c9$1@aioe.org:
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>> Deadrat wrote:
>>> thedarkman wrote in
>>> news:e3cd0ba5-c6b0-4e90-
>>> bd67-df9922aaa328@d23g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Incitement and racial hatred can mean practically anything; these
>>>> are catch all thought crimes.
>>>
>>> Maybe in the UK. Not in the US.
>>>
>>> Incitement requires specific instructions in a situation of clear and
>>> imminent danger.
>>>
>>> "Hate crimes" is a misleading term for increased penalties for crimes
>>> of violence in which the motivation is racism or the like. Hatred
>>> itself and the simple expression thereof are not crimes.
>>
>> "I hate your guts!" Sock! May or may not be a hate crime is the US.
>> If your skin colors and religions don't match it will be a hate crime
>> if the DA don't like you.
>
> "Sock!" -- at that point (*but not before*) it's a crime: battery.
Or puppetry.
> What might make it a "hate crime" is the previous declaration that makes
> it
> clear the assualt was motivated by hatred.
And how many assaults, batteries, rapes and murders are motivated by Love?
> The prosecution will have to show beyond a reasonable doubt that
> the hatred was racial and not, say, personal animus.
So it *is* a thought crime, eh?
>
>> It is in this way that US law forces racism
>> as it prevents mixed race social interaction as personal dislike is
>> automatically turned into racism.
>
> Do you have any evidence for this contention?
If two white guys get into a fight, and one calls the other a nigger, has a
racial
hate crime occured?
What if one of the white guys was Michael Jackson?
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