XPost: alt.censorship, alt.non.racism, aus.legal   
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   From: joeparkinchinese@btinternet.com   
      
   & Reality Check) & wrote:   
      
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   > "Deadrat"  wrote in message   
   > news:AE76m.11573$j84.5163@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com..   
   > .  >Golden California Girls   
   >  wrote in   
   > > news:h3aph8$3c9$1@aioe.org:   
   > >   
   > > > Deadrat wrote:   
   > >>>thedarkman    
   > wrote in   
   > > > > news:e3cd0ba5-c6b0-4e90-   
   > > > > bd67-df9922aaa328@d23g2000vbm.googlegroups   
   > > > > .com:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Incitement and racial hatred can mean   
   > > > > > practically anything; these are catch   
   > > > > > all thought crimes.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Maybe in the UK.  Not in the US.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Incitement requires specific instructions   
   > > > > in a situation of clear and imminent   
   > > > > danger.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > "Hate crimes" is a misleading term for   
   > > > > increased penalties for crimes of   
   > > > > violence in which the motivation is   
   > > > > racism or the like.  Hatred itself and   
   > > > > the simple expression thereof are not   
   > > > > crimes.   
   > > >   
   > > > "I hate your guts!" Sock!  May or may not   
   > > > be a hate crime is the US.  If your skin   
   > > > colors and religions don't match it will be   
   > > > a hate crime if the DA don't like you.   
   > >   
   > > "Sock!" -- at that point (*but not before*)   
   > > it's a crime:  battery.   
   >   
   > Or puppetry.   
   >   
   > > What  might make it a "hate crime" is the   
   > > previous declaration that makes  it clear the   
   > > assualt was motivated by hatred.   
   >   
   > And how many assaults, batteries, rapes and   
   > murders are motivated by Love?   
   >   
   > > The prosecution will have to show beyond a   
   > > reasonable doubt that the hatred was racial   
   > > and not, say, personal animus.   
   >   
   > So it is a thought crime, eh?   
   >   
   > >   
   > > > It is in this way that US law forces racism   
   > > > as it prevents mixed race social   
   > > > interaction as  personal dislike is   
   > > > automatically turned into racism.   
   > >   
   > > Do you have any evidence for this contention?   
   >   
   > If two white guys get into a fight, and one   
   > calls the other a nigger, has a racial hate   
   > crime occured?   
   >   
   > What if one of the white guys was Michael   
   > Jackson?   
      
   I would start believing in reincarnation   
      
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   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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