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   "Deadrat"  wrote in message   
   > Webmanager_CritEst  wrote in   
   >> On Jul 12, 7:52 pm, "¦ Reality Check© ¦"  wrote:   
   >>> "Webmanager_CritEst"  wrote   
   >>>   
   >>> > [Is it OK to hate child molestors? ]   
   >>>   
   >>> > It is 'OK' to 'hate' anything, it is not OK to break the law   
   >>> > against them or curtail their civil rights, unnecessarily; just   
   >>> > like anyone.   
   >>>   
   >>> > WM   
   >>>   
   >>> Apparently it's NOT ok to hate certain people for certain reasons,   
   >>> as in doing so the mere *thought* will result in increased penalties   
   >>> for any crime committed against them. It's the *thought* that's   
   >>> bringing the extra penalty, not the crime itself.   
   >>>   
   >>> Jesus said:"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and   
   >>> mother   
   >> ,   
   >>> his wife and children, his brothers and sisters-yes, even his own   
   >>> life-he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:25-27   
   >>>   
   >>> So do you have enough hate to follow Jeezus?   
   >>>   
   >>> Well ... do ya, punk?   
   >>   
   >> That's just post-modernism, I am afraid, but all things pass.   
   >>   
   >> WM   
   >   
   > Well, I'd be afraid, too, if I couldn't think any more clearly than this.   
   >   
   > Post-modernism refuses to accept any fixed meaning for text or any   
   > "objective" defintion for words.  This is expressly not Reality Check's   
   > point of view.  In Luke 14:25, The koine word translated "hate" is   
   > "misein."  And it means hate, and it's used elsewhere in the New   
   > Testament in contexts that make clear that it means hate.  And RC is   
   > saying "Hey! Hate is hate."   
   >   
   > The post-modernist view is the apologists'.  They say that "hate" in Luke   
   > doesn't mean hate but rather "loves less."  Or that "hate" doesn't imply   
   > animus only behavior in rejecting another's values.  If you're gonna   
   > swallow the Wholly Bible, then you have to be a post-modernist.  And it   
   > helps to have no sense of cognitive dissonance.   
   >   
   > Worhsip the King of Peace of I'll kill you!   
      
   Get in line.   
      
   "everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel,   
   was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. "   
   -- 2 Chronicles 15:13   
      
   or my personal favorite:   
      
   "Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that   
   some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by   
   encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine   
   the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a   
   detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and   
   completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then   
   you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put   
   the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That   
   town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the   
   plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn   
   from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on   
   you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your   
   ancestors.  The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep   
   all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him. "   
   -- Deuteronomy 13:13-19   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)