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   From: reality@check.it   
      
   "Bama Brian"  wrote in message   
   news:h3q8ch$es8$1@news.eternal-september.org...   
   >¦ Reality Check© ¦ wrote:   
   >> 5 Police Officers Shot and 2 Suspects Killed in Jersey City Melee   
   >> By LIZ ROBBINS   
   >> Five Jersey City police officers were shot and wounded - two critically -   
   >> as they tried to arrest a shotgun-wielding suspect early Thursday,   
   >> officials said. The first officer was hit during a predawn encounter with   
   >> the man, and the others were hit in a furious shootout in a building   
   >> apartment and hallway that erupted when they tried to arrest the suspect,   
   >> officials said.   
   >>   
   >> Both the first suspect and a second one, described by some as a woman,   
   >> were killed in the gun battle at 24 Reed Street near Journal Square, the   
   >> officials said.   
   >>   
   >> One critically injured officers was shot in the face, the other in the   
   >> neck.   
   >>   
   >> The officer shot in the face had "no signs of life" when he was brought   
   >> to the Jersey City Medical Center, according to the hospital's chief of   
   >> surgery, Nathaniel Holmes, but was steadily improving in the early   
   >> afternoon. The officer shot in the neck was in surgery and doing well,   
   >> the Jersey City mayor, Jerramiah T. Healy, said.   
   >>   
   >> Mr. Healy called the incident a "terrible gunfight." Of the other   
   >> officers who were shot, one was hit in his bullet-proof vest, another in   
   >> the arm, and the third was grazed in the leg by a bullet and already   
   >> released. Several others had minor injuries. The police would not release   
   >> the names of the officers.   
   >>   
   >> According to another Jersey City law official who requested anonymity   
   >> because the case was still under investigation, the two people dead are   
   >> suspected of conducting a robbery in Jersey City with shotguns in June   
   >> and were under surveillance. The Jersey City police chief, Thomas J.   
   >> Comey, would not confirm their identities or their gender.   
   >>   
   >> "These individuals were being sought by our department for a major   
   >> crime," Chief Comey said, declining to comment on the crime. "This   
   >> individual came fully ready to go to war with us. This is not a normal   
   >> shotgun, this is not a street weapon, this is one meant to hunt nothing   
   >> other than men, and he took it out on our police officer."   
   >>   
   >> The horrific scene unfolded in a period of about seven hours in New   
   >> Jersey's second-largest city that sits in the reflection of Manhattan.   
   >> Glittering waterfront condominiums rub up against rundown areas like the   
   >> gritty corner of Reed Street and Bergen Avenue, a neighborhood of three-   
   >> and four-story buildings interspersed with empty lots of overgrown grass,   
   >> bodegas and beauty salons that was witness to warfare: two separate   
   >> bursts of heavy gunfire, erupting about an hour apart.   
   >>   
   >> Chief Comey said that two officers had been sitting in a parked car at   
   >> about 11 p.m. Wednesday near what they believed to be the suspect's car   
   >> when a man dressed in a cloak that appeared to be priest's garb walked   
   >> toward the car.   
   >>   
   >> After driving up alongside the vehicle, the officer on the passenger side   
   >> jumped out to apprehend the suspect. But concealed under the suspect's   
   >> cloak was a pump-action shotgun and a strap of ammunition. The suspect   
   >> pivoted, threw off his cloak and unloaded two rounds of ammunition.   
   >   
   > Chances are good that the cops didn't even bother to ID themselves when   
   > they jumped the man.   
      
   Intant Karma!   
      
      
   >   
   > If the cops were in civilian clothes as detectives, and they pulled up to   
   > the man in an unmarked car and assaulted him as described, then the man   
   > was within his rights to defend himself.   
      
   The only good corrupt cop, is a dead corrupt cop.   
      
      
   >   
   > But cops in NJ, in a poor neighborhood, have every expectation that the   
   > subjects, er, suspects will not be armed since NJ does not allow anyone   
   > but the wealthy, the politically connected, and the famous to carry a gun.   
      
   Yet, somehow this gun-totin' citizen managed.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >> "As he realized we were on him, he shed an outer garment to make sure   
   >> that he could pull the shotgun up so he could go to war almost instantly,   
   >> go to battle," Chief Comey said of the suspect.   
   >>   
   >> The shotgun blast missed the officer on foot, but the pellets shattered   
   >> the windshield of the police car, grazing the leg of the officer at the   
   >> wheel.   
   >   
   > Maybe this cop 'at the wheel' shouldn't have had his foot up on the   
   > dashboard.   
      
   He can fit more donuts down his gullet that way.   
      
   >   
   >> The gunman then fled into the apartment at 24 Reed Street, and the   
   >> officers called for emergency backup. Officers from the Port Authority of   
   >> New York and New Jersey, under a cooperation agreement, joined the Jersey   
   >> City police.   
   >>   
   >> The building was evacuated, and about an hour after the first shooting, a   
   >> team of officers entered.   
   >>   
   >> As soon as they started to break down the door into the apartment, one   
   >> suspect started firing, his bullets piercing the apartment's walls and   
   >> through the halfway open door. The first officer inside the door was   
   >> struck in the neck. The second officer who, was right behind him, was   
   >> shot in the face, Chief Comey said.   
   >>   
   >> A furious exchange of bullets followed, and the two suspects were fatally   
   >> wounded. Officers hurried to carry their wounded colleagues down the   
   >> flight of stairs to rush them to the hospital.   
   >>   
   >> A little more than three hours later, Dr. Holmes, at the New Jersey   
   >> Medical Center, was standing among other hospital and law enforcement   
   >> officials expressing his amazement. The officer shot in the face had no   
   >> vital signs at first. "So the fact that we can talk about him being in   
   >> surgery is a minor miracle," Dr. Holmes said.   
   >   
   > In the movies this would mean that this officer's body was taken over by a   
   > demon...   
      
   Which movies?   
      
   >   
   > This entire episode is pretty sad.  Let's hope that the two who were   
   > killed were indeed the alleged bank robbers.  If not, two innocents will   
   > have died and three cops will have been wounded for no reason.   
      
   There's ALWAYS a reason.   
      
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