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   XPost: talk.politics.guns, uk.legal   
   From: reality@check.it   
      
   "Graham Murray"  wrote in message   
   news:87iqhhyn1f.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk...   
   > "¦ Reality Check© ¦"  writes:   
   >   
   >> One of the most bogus rulings they've made, as the IDENTITY of a   
   >> suspect/perp *is* one of the prime elements necessary for the Gov't   
   >> to PROVE BEYOND a reasonable doubt. Forcing the suspect to   
   >> give up a requisite conviction element of a crime *is* -- ipso facto --   
   >> self-incrimination.   
   >   
   > Surely the mandatory DNA sample and fingerprints taken from those   
   > arrested is a much stronger form of identity than a name/address/DOB.   
      
   Ding ding ding !... We have a WINNER! Way to hit that slow-pitch softball   
   right outa da park!   
      
   Why should a citizen be FORCED to give ANY evidence to the Government   
   that WILL be used AGAINST them in a criminal prosecution?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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