XPost: alt.true-crime, aus.legal, misc.legal   
   XPost: uk.legal   
   From: bo774@FreeNet.Carleton.CA   
      
   "¦ Reality Check© ¦" (reality@check.it) writes:   
   >   
   > So you should beat children to teach them that as adults they should have   
   > the restraint to not beat children ... unless they own those children, eh?   
      
   I have no idea how you leapt to that conclusion.   
      
   Parents have responsibilities for their children, not property rights.   
      
   My post stated that parents should exercise restraint, rather than beating   
   children, as a good example to both children and to other adults.   
      
   Physical punishment of children should be a last resort, after all other   
   measures have been considered. One of the considerations is whether   
   police, child welfare bodies and courts would agree with the decision.   
      
   In one case I mentioned a court seemed to feel that it was legal,   
   as a way to reinforce that slamming a car door on a siblings hand is not   
   acceptable behaviour. The cries of the child with the injured hand may   
   have been a bigger factor in trigging 911 calls than the child who was   
   spanked.   
      
   Bullying is about abuse of people with less power. Children, and adults   
   need to learn and bear in mind that everyone can be held accountable for   
   their conduct. They can't use force in interpersonal issues, except in   
   very limited situations.   
      
   Everybody has rights, often those rights conflict.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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