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   The step by step guide to dealing with Jamie Baillie   
      
   (En Français)   
   Summary and purpose   
      
   This guide is meant as a neutral and rational guide to dealing with attacks   
   by one Jamie Baillie of Toronto, London or Sarnia, Ontario, Canada, owner of   
   the domain, darkshado.ca. (He has moved within a 500 km radius frequently.   
   He is currently believed to reside in London, Ontario)   
      
   Chances are good that if you've run into Mr Baillie, you are a victim of one   
   of his many LARTs (Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool), or complaints to your   
   ISP or web host to have your connectivity removed, your website shut down or   
   both.   
      
   Mr Baillie is well known for sending many, often dozens, of emails off to   
   each and every contact he can find not only within the domain name of his   
   current target, but their upstream providers, as well. He does not restrict   
   himself to role accounts such as abuse@ or postmaster@, he will hunt down   
   the names and email addresses of executives of his target and email them, as   
   well.   
      
   Mr Baillie's goal appears to be to silence anyone he disagrees with. He will   
   often contradict himself (many times, within the same sentence) or accuse   
   others of actions that he himself is guilty of doing. When someone points   
   out his inconsistencies or double standards, Mr Baillie resorts to   
   absolutely foul language, threats of violence, threats to have the person   
   removed from the Internet and threats of legal action.   
      
   It is important to remember that Mr Baillie has never followed through with   
   any of his threats, other than to bombard ISPs and web hosts with his   
   complaints.   
      
   Perhaps more important to remember is this: It is easier and simpler to   
   ignore and/or killfile (Killfile: To automatically filter any messages   
   from/about him from your news/email reader so you do not see them) Mr   
   Baille. Responding to or dialoguing with Mr Baillie is not a productive use   
   of time and does nothing but add to the general "clutter" of the Internet.   
      
   Jamie Baillie Tactics   
      
   Here are Mr Baillie's most common tactics and courses of action when he   
   comes across someone he disagrees with:   
      
   Send multiple complaint emails to his targets' ISP and web provider - Often   
   sending to every public address he can find.   
   A foul mouthed diatribe in Usenet, cussing at his target, wishing them to   
   die, or referring to them as prostitutes and use of sexist or racist   
   remarks.   
   (He uses terms like "whore", "prostitute", "KKK", "Nazi" and several other   
   terms not suited in a document intended for a general audience)   
   Threats of death and bodily injury to anyone who dares come near him   
   Telephone calls and emails to his targets' employers   
   Threats of legal action against both his targets and his targets' hosting   
   providers and their upstream providers.   
   Posting of personal information about his targets' families, such as their   
   aging and sick parents.   
   He will label you a criminal, despite not fully understanding how one is   
   actually labelled a criminal in any democratic and law-abiding society.   
   (Perhaps ironically, often the actions he labels his victims as 'criminals'   
   for, Mr Baillie is well documented for doing that very thing)   
   He continually insists that he is "defending his good name" - Yet he does so   
   with absolutely foul language, threats of violence, threats of legal action,   
   threats of silencing via disconnection from the Internet, Usenet and/or   
   webhosting.   
   If you are an ISP, NSP (News Service Provider) or Web host   
      
   If you are contacted by Mr Baillie, your best course of action is to ignore   
   him. Filter any and all communications from him or his aliases to /dev/null   
   or advise him to have his legal counsel (he has none) to contact your own.   
   Mr Baillie will not cease contacting you until you have terminated your   
   paying customer. His sole purpose in contacting you, over and over and over   
   again is to silence those he disagrees with.   
      
   By all means, feel free to investigate his initial allegation on the   
   off-chance that he is reporting something legitimate, but remember to look   
   at the entire context. Chances are good that he is complaining about   
   something your customer wrote in Usenet. Usenet can get inflammatory at   
   times, to be sure, but when dealing with Mr Baillie, one has only to look at   
   an entire thread to reveal that it is more often than not Mr Baillie being   
   abusive, inflammatory, threatening and disruptive.   
      
   Remember that, as a business, the public/customer relations impact on you   
   can be extremely negative if it is widely known that you silence paying,   
   law-abiding customers based solely on the complaint of a single individual   
   (no matter how many times that individual repeats the same complaint) - Most   
   democratic countries have a legal system with due process - Mr Baillie seeks   
   to circumvent that process by making himself sound more threatening than he   
   really is.   
   It is most important to remember that he has threatened hundreds of ISPs,   
   NSPs and web hosts with legal action: to date, he has launched exactly zero   
   actions, no matter how threatening his words or posturing has been.   
      
   If you are the target of Jamie Baillie attempts to get you disconnected or   
   silenced   
      
   Contact your ISP and/or web host and explain your side of the situation. Ask   
   them to take 30 seconds and type in "jamie baillie" into google and see what   
   comes up. This alone should tell the ISP/Host who they're dealing with in   
   regards to Mr Baillie.   
   Do not respond to Jamie Baillie in public. (Yes, this author is guilty of   
   not following this rule) - He absolutely will not respond to logic, experts   
   or even documented evidence of his own actions.   
   If your employer has been targeted by Mr Baillie, follow the same steps:   
   Show them a google search for his name and they will see who it is that is   
   making complaints.   
   Document, document, document. While Mr Baillie will deny his actions, a   
   court will not, should you pursue a restraining order or a libel action.   
   Remember, however, your own actions will be looked at, so remember rule #2   
   above.   
   Contact Mr Baillie's ISP and:   
   His News Service Provider (NSP) if the harassment is via Usenet   
   His web host provider if the harassment is via his website(s) (ex:   
   defamatory or libelous pages about you or your company)   
   Law enforcement in both your jurisdiction and his if threats of violence are   
   being made   
   If you have found yourself blocked via Spamhaus, UCEProtect, APEWS or   
   another block list - beware of replies.   
      
   Some block list providers will suggest that you discuss your case in the   
   Usenet newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email in order to learn how to get   
      
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