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   nospam@isp.com to no.top.post@gmail.com   
   Re: Law-Office procedure methods ?   
   28 Jun 10 12:19:59   
   
   XPost: us.legal.self-represent, scot.legal, aus.legal   
      
   On 28 Jun 2010, no.top.post@gmail.com wrote:   
      
   > Do law students get taught 'how to structure   
   > their speech' . . .?   
      
   Yes, in a variety of direct and indirect ways.   
      
   > or do they just aquire the skill during practice?   
      
   Your here used "just" if an intended synonym for something like   
   "merely or "only" or "solely" makes this portion of your query inapt   
   while also self-answering.  It may not always or even mostly be so   
   that "Practice Makes Perfect!" and some never acquire to the point of   
   being able practically/helpfully to implement the skill to which you   
   refer here yet the experience of practice, including, of course,   
   feed-back from others with or re. whom the practice is being done,   
   ordinarily is essential if the student and, later, lawyer or pro se   
   litigant is intellectually capable of understanding the results of the   
   lessons conveyed thereby.  Obviously.  Indeed, this is so basic that   
   (especially in light of your prior law related experiences) you   
   nonetheless pose these questions as if you are serious in so doing   
   might be something of a self-indictment.   
      
   >    *    *    *    How would YOU manage the following common   
   > situation:   
   > - you've got 9 current cases: 1,2...9; each with its set of   
   >   paper-documents:  a, b, ....   
   > - you need to make a visit/talk that entails more than one   
   >   of the 9 cases, and you need to take papers from several   
   >   of the cases; eg. 1b, 2a, 2b, 4b, 4c...   
   > - Now while document 4c was 'in or associated with' the   
   >   physical-file "4",  it was properly filed. But once it's removed   
   >   and bundled with 1b & 2a for the new visit/talk it's part of   
   >   the 'new-visit/talk file'.   
   > - And if the new-visit/talk has a short life and doesn't justify   
   >   having its own file, how do you 'direct' 1b, 2a, 2b, 4b, 4c..back   
   >   to their proper files automatically; ie. without having to re-think   
   >   where they should go?   
      
   This does not appear to be a question about how to "structure speech"   
   so as persuasively and otherwise effectively to express methods and   
   results of legal reasoning as much as it is a "How to?" question about   
   what, for the most part, is routine and common-sense mechanics of   
   document indexing/filing and related document use and management.   
      
   Anyway, some (VERY) common alternatives can be found by solving these   
   sorts of riddles:   
      
            What is one frequent because also sensible use of a   
       "Paste-It" note or, for that matter, ordinary note paper and   
       maybe a paper clip with a notion along the lines suggested   
       in the next following riddle?   
      
             What might be an occasion to use a copy machine and,   
       if appropriate in light of the nature of the documents   
       and talk or other use in question, perhaps a hand-written   
       notation, e.g., in file '4', that says, "This is a copy of   
       document '4C' the original of which has been placed in   
       [temporary] file [Filename]" or, maybe in [temporary] file   
       [FileName], "This is a copy of original document '4C' which   
       is in file '4'." (or maybe multiple such notes in each relevant   
       file)?   
      
             For voluminous/multiple files and documents re. which   
       some version or variant of, e.g., "Bates numbering" maybe   
       coupled with use of (proprietary-purchased or self-created)   
       document management software is appropriate (or necessary),   
       what might be a sensible use of such numbering and database   
       management for whatever are the documents to which you   
       refer?   
      
   Obviously.   
      
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