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|    TURMEL: Todd LeClair MedPot Reply to Cro    |
|    03 Oct 12 19:45:24    |
      60d401a6       XPost: alt.fan.john-turmel, can.politics, alt.drugs       XPost: alt.conspiracy       From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              JCT: The Crown filed their Memorandum in Response to Todd       LeClair's Application for Leave to Appeal his conviction for       growing marijuana. His doctor had signed, but he got busted       before he got his exemption. So he established medical need       to claim Hitzig 170. Plus he had medical witnesses to the       flaws in the MMAR so there was evidence below. So here is       his reply to the Crown's points:              File Number: 34936        IN THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA        (ON APPEAL FROM THE NEW BRUNSWICK COURT OF APPEAL)              BETWEEN:        Todd Terrance Leclair        Applicant        Appellant        and        Her Majesty The Queen        Respondent        APPLICANT'S REPLY        TODD TERRANCE LECLAIR, APPLICANT        (Pursuant to Rule 28 of the Supreme Court Rules)                     For the Applicant:       Todd Terrance LeClair       1209 Central Hainesville Rd.       Upper Hainesville, NB, E6E 1J9       Tel/fax: 506-463-2476       E: need2btoad1@hotmail.com              To the Respondent:       Public Prosecution Service of Canada       5251 Duke St. Suite 1400       Halifax, NS,B3J 1P3       Tel/fax: 902-407-7701/426-1351       Suhanya Edwards       Counsel for the Respondent               APPLICANT'S REPLY              1. The Crown has accurately reflected Applicant's arguments:              CR: 6.. The applicant alleged that sections 4 and 7 of the       CDSA were invalid as they had not been re-enacted after       being struck down by the Courts of Appeal for Alberta and       Ontario,              2. Applicant calls this the POLCOA argument: Parliament Only       Legislates, Courts Only Abrogate. S.43(a) of the       Interpretation Act says striking down flaws in one piece of       legislation (MMAR) cannot revive anything not in force in       another piece of legislation (CDSA).              3. CR:.. or that they were invalid as a result of Beren and       Sfetkopoulos decisions.              4. If the two sections on grower limits were ruled by Hitzig to so       impair the MMAR that the CDSA prohibitions had been invalid       during those two years those two flaws were present, why shouldn't       the same grower limits recently ruled unconstitutional by Beren and       Sfetkopoulos not also so impair the MMAr that the CDSA       prohibitions are again invalid during the years those two       flaws were again present? Why did the Bad Exemption found by       Hitzig mean No Offence during the first period of flaws but       the Bad Exemption found by Beren and Sfetkopoulos NOT mean       No Offence during the second period of flaws?              5. CR: 7.. Judge acknowledged.. the constitutional issue in       which the applicant challenged the validity of sections 4       and 7 of the CDSA due to the alleged defects in the MMAR as       follow:       a) limits to ATPs to growers (s.32(c) of the MMAR);       b) limits to growers per site (s.32(d) of the MMAR);       c) delays in processing.       12:... The judge declined to comment on Sections 32(d) and       (c) of the MMAR because the Applicant had led no evidence       and had made no arguments in support of those claims.              6. The Applicant did not lead the same evidence that       Sfetkopoulos and Beren had led because they had won and the       Applicant merely cited the recent Supreme Court of Canada       precedents that the caps on ATPs and growers had been struck       down thus proving they had been unconstitutional the whole       time. It seems rather illogical that the Court should have       expected Applicant to re-submit the same evidence to re-       prove what was was already successfully proven before.       What's the purpose of precedents if Applicant can't use them       and has to re-submit all the same evidence every time? So       the arguments that the limits found to be unconstitutional       in Beren and Sfetkopoulos were not dealt with because the       precedents weren't good enough, the judge wanted all the       same evidence re-submitted all over again.              7. CR: 25. The applicant asserts that the limits created by       sections 32(d) and (4) of the MMAR are unconstitutional. He       led no evidence to support these claims.              8. The Beren and Sfetkopoulos precedents assert that the       limits created by sections 32(d) and (4) of the MMAR are       unconstitutional and the Applicant led the Beren and       Sfetkopoulos precedents in support of these claims. Why       should have Applicant have proven those limits were       unconstitutional all over again when they'd successfully       been so proven already? Of course, Applicant cited the two       precedents and offered no new evidence in support of those       precedents. Since when do lawyers re-submit all the evidence       when they cite a precedent? New style law? The precedents       should have sufficed.              9. CR: 22.. The applicant claims that S.4(1) of the CDSA was       struck down in Beren.              10. Applicant does not claim that S.4(1) of the CDSA was       struck down in Beren. Applicant submitted precedents that       that S.32(c) and (d) of the MMAR were struck down in Beren.       And Applicant never claims that CDSA S.4(1) is struck down,       the Parker Court worded it as: the prohibition on possession       in S.4(1) is invalid. Applicant is not claiming S.4 or 7 are       struck down, that's hyperbole, only the prohibitions stated.       And when there was a second Bad Exemption, there was a       second No Offence period: BENO.              11. CR:.. That is not so. The Court in Beren found that the       MMAR did not create a valid exemption              12. For exactly the same reasons as in Hitzig, they found a       Bad Exemption due to the Gardening Limits.              13. CR:.. but that the defects could be corrected by       severing the offending provisions and leaving the rest of       the MMAR in force.              14. Exactly as the Hitzig Court had severed those same two       offending limits and left the rest of the MMAR intact. So if       there was No CDSA Offence while the MMAR contained the       flawed limits in the Hitzig period, why not No Offence while       the MMAR contained the same two flawed gardening limits in       the Beren-Sfetkopoulos period? Why did a Bad Exemption mean       No Offence (where the Crown dropped the remaining 4,000       possession charges) during the first BENO period and not now       with the very same flaws once again struck down by the       courts for a second BENO period?              15. It is best explained by Crown Attorney Sean Gaudet to       Supreme Court of Canada in Sfetkopoulos v. Canada:       "[33] The Court in R. v. J.P. ruled that the combined effect       of Parker and Hitzig meant there was no constitutionally       valid marijuana possession offence between July 31 2001 and       Oct 7 2003, the date the MMAR were constitutionally       rectified by the decision in Hitzig. Courts may construe the       Federal Court of Appeal's decision as creating a similar       period of retrospective invalidity dating back to December 3              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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