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|    John Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Bad day for Mike Spottiswood's C    |
|    20 Apr 13 13:12:01    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              TURMEL: Bad day for Mike Spottiswood's Crown Attorneys              JCT: Yesterday was the last pre-trial case management       conference before Ontario Superior Court Justice Goodman       with Crowns Kim Johnson and Myfanwy Smith, the court-       appointed Amicus Curia lawyer Robert Sheppard and Mike       Spottiswood.              1) Mr. Sheppard advised the court Mike wanted to tape record       the hearing and the judge said fine. I'll bet it's a       precedent in the London Courthouse with their "no tape       recorders allowed" sign posted outside the courtroom.              2) The Crown was really rocked when Justice Goodman decided       to send all the issues to trial. In earlier case management       discussions, he had indicated that half of the issues the       Crown had objected to might not be relevant and could be       stricken. But in the end, Judge Goodman decided to let the       trial judge do the striking, if any, and send all of the       issues to trial. Har har har. The Crown thought they'd       already cut their workload in half and were hoping to cut it       further and now find they're all alive again! Har har har.       Bad news for them that upon revisitation, the judge found       none of the issues was bad enough to strike beforehand.              3) As for the 55 witnesses, the judge had asked that more       details should be be provided of what medical evidence the       witnesses "will say" than the simple grid of issues they had       all ticked off for topics they wanted to complain about.       That really would have been too much work and the grid       really did lay out what they "will say" so we just left it       at that and the judge decided to let Mike have all the       witnesses he could fit into 3 days of hearings. Then the       Crown gets 2 days for rebuttal.              So we won't use that many witnesses but will use many       doctors.       I think there's a good chance that every issue can be       covered by most witnesses in 3 days and we really don't need       everyone since there is overlap. We always knew the judge       could say: I've heard enough on "no doctors," and we then       stick to witnesses with testimony on other issues. When the       judge has heard enough on each issue, it gets pared down       until exactly the right few witnesses are left for exactly       the remaining rare issues.              4) So the Crown asked for a publication ban on Mike's pre-       trial motions! What are they afraid of? DENIED!!!              While the judge had to handle another case, they broke for a       conference between Mike, Amicus, 2 Crowns. They offered Mike       1 year probation for a guilty plea to S.7(1) production with       the S.5(2) trafficking charge and the charges against his       daughter Sarah gone. That Sarah's conviction would ruin her       for life fell on Mike's deaf ears because we know her former       lawyer Michael Barry had explained that they'd have to let       her go if Mike won and would let her go if Mike lost! So she       was never in any danger and was only being used as a pawn to       coerce a plea. And Mike wasn't falling for it. Sarah's safe.              Mike countered that if Mike MacDonald could get a discharge       and no criminal record and all his stuff back, Mike wanted       at least the same deal! What a great card added to our hand       from out East. What could they say? Why should Mike S. end       up with a criminal record and Mike M. not? What perfect       timing.              So the Crown knows that a discharge is the only deal. No       record. No win. People on my team get criminal records only       after they've been sustained by the Supreme Court of Canada!       The MacDonald discharge is the best they're going to get.       Stand-off is the best they can get.              And to finally add a little rain to the Crown's day, Mike       filed my Expert Witness Report which, on each issue, says:       Witnesses will testify that this or that policy hurt or       threatened them and my opinion is that the harm reduces       their chances of good health and survival. On every issue,       my expert opinion is that the tort caused by the flaw in the       MMAR reduces the chances of life. I just need the witnesses       to provide the facts upon which my expert opinion on the       odds of survival are based and it's cinched.              So I'd expect the Crown to take the plea for the discharge       and avoid the nightmare trial of the decade. Why they're       waiting, I don't know. Things change. Once Mike walks in to       order subpoenas sent to some of our recalcitrant doctors,       then the shit hits the fan and they'll be too late to avoid       the inconvenience of explaining to all these doctors why       they've been called to explain their refusals. (As the Court       of Appeal told Mernagh he should have!) Har har har.              Anyway, I hope Mike's tape-recorder precedent makes the       London courthouse grapevine. You have to admit, for the past       25 years, lawyers could have been taping every hearing to       upload every night so they would never have to wait for       transcripts with instantaneous access to perfect recall at       home like I did. I wonder how long it takes for the first       young lawyer to wise up and start advising the courts that       he's taping his hearings for better notes. But now Mike's       going to have his whole show taped which he'll be able to       listen to for the rest of his life!              Mike has until May 10 to file anything, the Crown has until       June 7 to respond, June 12 to file a motion challenging the       relativity of our medical witnesses' material to the motion       challenging the MMAR! Har har har har har har. I'll wipe       that out with a 1-liner and it had better be on their time.              The trial starts with the pre-plea Quash motion and pre-       trial constitutional motion from June 17-19 for Mike; the       Crown has 20-21 for its witnesses and evidence with respect       to the MMAR. Keep in mind, there are no witnesses on the       Quash Application, that's pure POLCOA-BENO law and the       decision will probably be reserved.       The motion on whether the law is dead should be decided before we       waste time on the motion whether it should be dead! But it's       not necessary.       After that's over, if no win, jury trial.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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