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|    TURMEL: Crown Factum for MedPot Mike Spo    |
|    16 Jun 13 14:44:35    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              TURMEL: Crown Factum for MedPot Mike Spottiswood's Monday trial              JCT: This is a parsing of the Crown's case in response to       Mike Spottiswood's Application to Quash S.7 producton       offence due to Parliament never re-enacting the prohibition       after Krieger struck it down and Application to declare the       S.7 offence invalid for flaws in the MMAR.               SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE        (Southwest Region, sitting at London, Ontario)       Between:        HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN        Respondent        and        Michael Kevin Spottiswood        Applicant               RESPONDENT'S FACTUM: APPLICATION TO QUASH        and NOTICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION"              RESPONDENT'S FACTUM:              CR: PART II - RESPONSE TO APPLICANTS ISSUES              OVERVIEW              Applicant is charged with two counts of Possession for the       Purpose of Trafficking as well as two counts of Production       of Cannabis Marijuana. He challenges the constitutionality       of the Marijuana Medical Access Regulations (MMAR) and seeks       a declaration that S.4 and S.7 are of no force and effect..              JCT: Krieger got the declaration that S.7 and S.4 were of no       force and effect. Mike's seeking to quash because S.7       "remains" of no force since Krieger. She's rephrasing the       Quash based on Krieger with a challenge that needs to be       proven again. Yet, that's what we're doing in the       constitutional anyway, exactly the same as Krieger and       Mernagh, but notice how she's turned the Quash challenge       into a constitutional just by wrongly using the word "are"       instead of "remain." "Are" is the word used when you're       trying to strike down a live law, not a dead one.              CR: because Parliament did not re-enact the CDSA after the       Court found flaws in the medical marijuana provisions.              JCT: And of course, Parker didn't find any flaws in the       medical provisions, there were no medical provisions then.       He found the lack of medical provisions was the flaw! Har       har har. Can't even get the base case right.              CR: APPLICATION TO QUASH       21. The Applicant seeks an order pursuant to S.601 of the       Criminal Code quashing his charges. He challenges the       existence of all cannabis marijuana laws              9JCT: No he doesn't. Only the ones Parker and Krieger struck       down, S.4 and S.7, not S.5(2) that Turmel lost.              CR: on the basis of arguments promulgated by John Turmel       that have been dismissed by the Ontario Court of Appeal and       other courts over and over again.       R. v. Turner.              CR: Background              22. The Supreme Court has upheld the general       constitutionality of the cannabis marijuana prohibition in       R. v. Malmo-Levine.              JCT: And we have to point out how it ruled the government       may prohibit and recreational need isn't enough to stop them       though Parker's medical need already had, it did not rule       Government had re-prohibited after Parker knocked down.       See how handy it was for Malmo-Levine's stinker weak-sister       to lose at the top so it could be misinterpreted by       government lawying this way.              CR: 23. Parker story.       24. MMAR July 30 2001              25. The question of whether the MMAR were constitutionally       adequate response came before the Ontario Court of Appeal in       Hitzig v. Canada.              JCT: Should have been called Parker II as originally filed.              CR: The Court determined that the MMAR regime was       unconstitutional in that it did not adequately provide for a       lawful supply of cannabis marijuana.              JCT: That the MMAR had failed because Parker was still       unexempted was dismissed by Justice Doherty, Simmons and       Goudge. Har har har.              CR: 26. Rather than strike down the MMAR in their entirety,              JCT: They didn't scrap the whole car because there are only       3 wheels and the brakes are seized! If the whole car wasn't       scrapped, it must mean it works! Judged! Har har.              CR: and declare S.4 of the CDSA to be of no force and       effect,              JCT: Parker had already ruled the prohibition invalid.       Hitzig's Alan Young did not ask that S.4 of the CDSA be       declared of no force and effect because the MMAR had failed,       Terry Parker had asked the Parker Order had taken effect       when the MMAR had failed. But since his motion was dismissed       when Alan proved the MMAR deficient and didn't ask, his       motion asking was aborted with it. Fortunately, J.P.'s       McAllister had asked that J.P.'s 2002 charge be dropped       while there was No Offence and a Bad Exemption which the       Court granted.              Nice for the Crown to mention how the CDSA was dependent on       a working MMAR, BENO, and I get another chance to point out       how McAllister won what Professor Saboteur or Ganja Gilligan       Young forgot to ask.              CR: the Ontario Court of Appeal crafted a Charter-compliant       MMAR              JCT: in 2003, two years after Parker had taken effect in       2001              CR: by striking down S.41(b) which prohibited a licensed       producer from growing for more than one ATP-holder.) and       S.54 (which prohibited more than three licensed producers       from producing in common).       x       CR: This resulted in a retrospective period of invalidity of       the prohibition of marijuana possession dating back to July       31 2001, the date the suspension of invalidity in Parker       expired) but had the prospective effect of making the once       again fully constitutional in Ontario as of Oct 7 2003 (the       date of the Hitzig decision)              JCT: And not elsewhere? A retrospective period that ended       when the two flaws were struck out of the regime. And yet       the Court of Appeal would not grant Parker's motion to have       it declared invalid upon expiry date. Neat.              CR: The Argument that the charges should be quashed has NO       merit.              27. The Applicant's argument that his charges should be       quashed is dependent on cannabis no longer being a       controlled substance.              JCT: It's the same as J.P. and Mernagh. The Applicant is not       saying cannabis is no longer a controlled substance, there       it is on the Schedule II. We see it, it's there. Applicant       is, using the exact words of the Parker Court, "the       possession offence on marijuana in S.4 is invalid," not the       possession offence on any other Controlled Substances. And       the Krieger Court ruled the prohibition on cultivation in       S.7 was invalid.              CR: Concurrently with Hitzig was the decision in R. v.       Turmel (2003) which held that Parker did not have the effect       of deleting cannabis marijuana from Schedule II of the CDSA.       "While there are questions about whether this motion was       properly brought, and whether the Superior Court had       jurisdiction to hear it, we prefer to deal with this appeal       by addressing directly the argument made by Mr. Turmel.              JCT: I'm honored it was such a great argument that it took              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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