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|    29 Oct 13 05:13:06    |
      From: AlanBaggett@volcanomail.com              Canada Revenue Agency cuts off elderly woman’s tax benefit : CRA SOTW              Canada Revenue Agency cuts off elderly woman’s tax benefit after deciding       she’s dead       Maria Francisco, very much alive, struggled to straighten things out because       she’s illiterate and in-person services have ended.              By:Patty Winsa News reporter, Published on Sat Oct 19 2013               A Toronto resident wants to know how the Canada Revenue Agency could decide       her 85-year-old mother was dead — and cut off her Ontario Trillium benefit —       without any proof.              Lavinia Nassif says she received a letter in the mail Tuesday addressed to the       estate of the late Maria Francisco, who lives and breathes in the same North       York house she does.              “These are people who work for the government. How do you put someone in the       computer as dead without any death certificate?” asks a baffled Nassif, a       former provincial employee who managed the gasoline tax branch at Queen’s Park       for 15 years.              To make matters worse, Nassif learned the closest CRA office has closed its       doors to the public and now only responds to enquiries by mail.              And when she tried the toll-free number for the agency, she was told that if       her mother was indeed alive, Nassif would need a T1013 authorization form       filled out by Francisco — who is illiterate — before anyone at the agency       could talk to her about her        mother’s problem.              If the situation wasn’t cleared up by the end of the month, her mother’s       pension cheque would also be terminated.              Francisco’s problem isn’t new to the CRA.              The agency’s computer system will declare someone deceased if they       accidentally write their date of birth in the field meant for date of death,       which appears on the first page of the electronic and print form of an       individual’s tax return, says CRA        spokesperson Sam Papadopoulos.              But the mistake can also be the fault of the agency’s data-entry employees,       who key in paper returns at 180 strokes a minute.              “We do take it seriously because it’s disruptive and disturbing to       individuals,” said Papadopoulos. Canada Pension and Old Age Security can end       up being cut off because the CRA sends out monthly updates to Services Canada,       which handles both benefits.              Nassif said that after getting the letter, she hauled her aged mother, who       uses a walker, up to 5010 Yonge St. and stood outside with two other people,       reading a sign that said the north Toronto tax office no longer offered       over-the-counter service.        Enquiries, in the form of a letter, could be put in a mailbox.              An employee who identified himself as a security guard came out and told       Nassif to call a 1-800 number.       When she did, two agents separately told her they could only dispense with the       T1013 form and talk to her if Francisco could read the income line from her       tax assessment, something she was unable to do.              “She never went to school. She doesn’t read or write,” Nassif says of her       mother, who emigrated from Portugal in the 1950s.              Desperate, Nassif tried the 1-800 number again and was finally helped by an       agent “sent from Heaven,” who said he could clear up the mistake within 24       hours.       “He told me he understood because his mother also couldn’t read or write,”       says Nassif. To verify her mother’s identity, the agent asked Francisco       questions she could answer, such as how many children she had, and her       birthdate.              The mistake still baffles Nassif, who can’t understand why there isn’t a       backup plan to ensure it doesn’t happen. When her father died in December, she       had to provide a copy of his death certificate at least 20 times to wrap up       his affairs.              “How is it a government employee enters a code and you have no papers to back       up what you did?” she asks. “These are people’s lives you’re talking about.”              The Yonge St. tax service office closed its doors to the public this month.       The federal government began closing all 51 of its tax service offices across       the country last year.              A website for the office says that “payment or enquiry counter services are no       longer provided at this location. An external drop box, emptied twice daily,       is available.”              Papadopoulos says the CRA still offers many online and telephone options.       “We’re not saying, ‘Don’t talk to us.’ We recognize that seniors can have       difficulty, and that’s why the telephone service is there.”              -----------------------------------------------------------        Miss a Tax Tale Miss a lot!        Visit the CRA SOTW Library at http://canada.revenue.agency.angelfire.com        ------------------------------------------------------------        Alan Baggett – Tax Collector’s Bible - http://taxcollectorsbible.com/               --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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