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|    TURMEL: Ray Turmel's 3rd Quash Motion af    |
|    29 Dec 13 19:10:55    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              TURMEL: Ray Turmel's 3rd Quash Motion after 2 appeals              JCT: Ray Turmel was busted for over-plant limit. He has       license to grow 10 pounds, was busted on Nov 9 2012 in       possession of 4 pounds and charged with over-producing to       get to the 10 pounds with too many plants, thus       demonstrating that plants are not right parameter for the       prohibition to be based on, right?              Earlier this year, he filed his S.601 non-       constitutional Application to Quash on POLCOA and BENO       grounds, like everyone else. The complaint about the plant       limit was only raisable in the Constitutional challenge       coming after the Quash.              The first Provincial Court judge dismissed it lack of       jurisdiction, wrong since J.P. got to have his Quash motion       heard by Ontario Provincial Court Justice Phillip. But what       can we do when the judge doesn't know the law?              So Ray filed the motion in Superior Court where he was going       to end up for his jury trial anyway.              On Nov 8 2013, this judge ruled that he had no jurisdiction       because Ray had not filed a S.95 Notice of Constitutional       Question, despite the motion stating it's not a       constitutional motion!              So Ray filed a Notice of Appeal of that decision in Montreal       at the Quebec Court of Appeal .              CANADA       PROVINCE OF QUEBEC       DISTRICT DE TERREBONNE QUEBEC COURT OF APPEAL       LOCALITE ST-JEROME       NO: 700-01-118-202-137 (Criminal Chamber)               Between        Raymond Turmel        Appellant               -and-               Attorney General for Quebec        Respondent               -and-               Attorney General for Canada        Respondent               NOTICE OF APPEAL              TAKE NOTICE that the Appellant appeals against the dismissal       of his S.606 application to quash.              PARTICULARS OF JUDGMENT:              1. Dismissal of S.601 Application to Quash charges.              2. Place of judgment: St-Jerome.              3. Name of Judge: Superior Court Justice Michel Bellehumeur.              4. Charges: a) S.7(1) b) (2)(b) of the CDSA.              5. Plea at trial: Mute pursuant to S.606.2 of the Criminal       Code.              6. The Appellant appeals against the dismissal of his Non-       Constitutional S.601 Application to Quash for failure to       file a Notice of Constitutional Question pursuant to S.95 of       the Quebec Civil Code.              GROUNDS OF APPEAL:              7. A Notice of Constitutional Question is net required for       an Application pursuant to S.601 of the Criminal Code to       quash the charges.              8. In a S.601 Application to Quash the charges, Justice       Rogin R. v. J.P. (2003), noted:       "[5] The Crown appeals to this court from this ruling. The       Crown complains that notwithstanding that J.P.'s original       application was not a Canadian Charter of Rights and       Freedoms application... the factum specifically states that       J.P. did not challenge the constitutionality of the       regulations which Phillips J. found not to contain an       offence."              9. Challenging the constitutional validity of the possession       and production prohibitions was successful in R. v. Parker       which took effect after July 31 2001 and the same       constitutional relief did not have to be applied for again.              FOR THESE REASONS, MAY IT PLEASE THE COURT              GRANT the present appeal to overturn the dismissal of the       Applicant's Application to Quash for failure to file a       Notice of Constitutional Question.              DOCUMENTATION:              R. v. J.P. Ontario Superior Court Rogin (2003)       canlii.org/on/cas/onsc/2003/2003onsc10765.html       Dated at St-Jerome on ___________ 2013              JCT: At the same time, he filed a second Quash Motion but       also filing a Notice of Constitutional Question stating       there was no Constitutional Question to be argued. Har har       har.              CANADA       PROVINCE OF QUEBEC SUPERIOR COURT OF       QUEBEC       DISTRICT DE TERREBONNE (Criminal Chamber)       LOCALITE ST-JEROME       NO: 700-01-118-202-137        Between        Raymond Turmel        Applicant               -and-               Attorney General for Quebec        Respondent               NOTICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION        (Pursuant to Section 95 of the Civil Code of Quebec)              TAKE NOTICE that on Dec 13 2013 at 2pm or as soon thereafter       can be heard the application made in Courtroom #_______at       the St-Jerome Courthouse pursuant to S.601 of the Criminal       Code to Quash the charges of the Accused which will raise no       constitutional issue.       For the Applicant:       Raymond J. Turmel              JCT: At least the next judge couldn't say we hadn't filed a       Notice of Question even though there was no Question to be       argued. Also, I upgraded the Quash kits to include the       statement from J.P. where the Crown complains that it is NOT       a constitutional motion!               APPLICATION FOR QUASH        (Pursuant to Section 601 of the Criminal Code)              TO ONE OF THE HONOURABLE JUDGES OF THE SUPERIOR COURT OF       QUEBEC (CRIMINAL CHAMBER), the Applicant states as follows:              This Non-Constitutional Application is well-founded in fact       and law needing no Notice of Constitutional Question. In R.       v. J.P. (2003), Justice Rogin noted for S.601 Quash Motion:              "[5] The Crown appeals to this court from this ruling. The       Crown complains that notwithstanding that J.P.'s original       application was not a Canadian Charter of Rights and       Freedoms application... the factum specifically states that       J.P. did not challenge the constitutionality of the       regulations which Phillips J. found not to contain an       offence."              Challenging the constitutional validity of the possession       and production prohibitions was successful in R. v. Parker       which took effect after July 31 2001.              JCT: So with this in the Quash motion, Ray went back on his       second Superior Court Quash and the judge again ruled she       had no jurisdiction because only the trial judge does.              So Ray filed a second Notice of Appeal in Montreal at the       Quebec Court of Appeal of her decision:               NOTICE OF APPEAL              TAKE NOTICE that the Appellant appeals against the dismissal       of his S.601 application to quash.              PARTICULARS OF JUDGMENT:              1. Dismissal of the              A) S.601 Application to Quash charges.              B) motion for pre-plea adjudication.              2. Place of judgment: St-Jerome.              3. Name of Judge: Superior Court Justice Sophie Bourque.              4. Charges: a) S.7(1) b) (2)(b) of the CDSA.              5. Plea at trial: No plea yet.              6. The Appellant appeals against the dismissal of his Non-              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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