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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Fed Court Orders Cherniak Mariju    |
|    18 Jan 14 00:17:48    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              JCT: Last Tuesday Jan 14 2014, I prepared a Judicial Review       of Health Canada's Jan 15 2014 letter informing Laurence       Cherniak that he could re-apply under the MMPR after their       refusal. They had first sent a Letter of Intent to Refuse on       Nov 29 2013.              The refusal had something to do with a specialist claiming       he had not been consulted. Luckily, Laurence had submitted 3       specialists and they focused on the one. I asked him send       them off a letter saying something like:              "Dear Specialist:              For the past several years, I have used cannabis to treat my       symptoms quite successfully but my family doctor wants to be       assured that he has fully complied with the regulations       needs my specialist to provide the following information.              I want to stress that this statement has no bearing on my       use of cannabis, it deal strictly with your specialization       in conventional therapies not having proven effective. You       don't have to approve my use, my family doctor does, you       only have to concur that conventional treatments have proven       not effective enough.              "I, Dr. ______________________________________, specialist       in ______________________________________________, assessed       the case of Laurence Cherniak on _________________________       and concur that conventional treatments are ineffective or       inappropriate for his symptom."              Considering the success I've had with herbal treatment, I       cannot imagine how it could be appropriate to try new       chemical treatments now. Sadly, with my renewal date       approaching, time is of the essence and I pray you can       email me such statement as soon as possible.              JCT: That should nail down whatever the problem was. We met       in Toronto to file the papers Tuesday morning for a hearing       by telephone on Friday. It was based on the lack of reasons       for intent but they say one of the doctors didn't concur.       But we're hoping they misled him into thinking he had       concurred on medpot use rather than on conventional       treatments not being good enough.              To win his case, he only needed one official statement from       one of the specialists; that way he could submit an amended       form by crossing out those any doctor whom he had not       obtained the statement from. So 1 doctor concurring that       conventional didn't work salvages the situation completely.       Two doctors makes Health Canada's reasons an embarrassment.              They probably tried to get non-concurrence out of all three       but two of three had concurred and so they picked the one of       three who had not to base their objection though either one       of the other two was sufficient. But technically, that extra       third was false, they'll defend, even if the required one and       two were not.              Best hope is that the guy who said he had not concurred had       been tricked into thinking it was about pot and not chems.       So there's also the chance he could get all three to state       conventional hadn't worked. Then he'd have shivved their       case to the point where they'll have to renew!              So if he can keep the doctors focused on the fact their       opinion had to do with their conventional treatment       specialization, not their non-conventional non-       specialization, he might get all three to completely shut       down Health Canada's case. After all, they haven't yet told       him which was thought he had not concurred and why not, have       they? And the fact they say 1 doctor looks good for the       other 2.              Regardless, I'm going in on a first challenge against the       "Intent" to decide ploy. There's a section that lets them to       that and I'd like to challenge it as a sleazy move,       especially since, in Laurence's case, we can see they don't       tell him what was wrong and he's expected to guess and cover       all bases again. Sleazy and they're caught. Stinks always       helps the case.              He'll be seeking the exemption extension pending the       decision on the reasons they say they have to say no. He       tried 10 times to get an answer he could judicially review       and it looks like it's the "intent to refuse then wait for       expiry" game.              And seeking an extension simply because their refusal to       decide gave him less time to shut down the wonderful grow       he had engineered over the years with undue haste.              So the torts are the ambiguity of the allegation against       his doctor and waiting for expiry rather than issue a       refusal with the required reasons!              They know it's an attack on his doctor and they really       don't want to get into that, they only want to hurt him       using the allegation they never expect to bring before a       court against a real doctor. Especially if they already know       2 of 3 had concurred that conventional wasn't enough.              So he focused on building the cards in his hand, trips is       cinch and exposes their fraud! Their fraud is suggested by       omitting details and hoping expiry works like it has so       often for others in the past!!!!! That's why I want to       challenge the policy of "intent to refuse." How many people       have you sent an "intent to refuse" with no details who       never figured out what was wrong and whose application then       expired? would be a great question to ask on Discovery of       Mr. Proulx. Because remember, once he starts this, he's       going to have Louis under oath!!! Har har har har har har.              If extension isn't won in Round 1, we file Round 2 motion       based on S.65 Destruct Order to be heard on the last Friday       Jan 24 before D-Day, 8-Life-Sentence Threat Day! Should be       quite the theatrics possible.              That's the plan so far, but pursuant to my ethos of "Winning       Through Intimidation," (check out the book, I don't       recommend many) I'll be searching for extra ways to hurt       Louis in between.              Later on Tuesday, the Attorney General filed a Response.       James Gorham is the Crown Attorney, a nice fellow, won't be       sleazy, he's on the civil side of prosecution, and has laid       out their losing cards as best he could.              CR: RESPONDENT'S WRITTEN REPRESENTATIONS              PART I - OVERVIEW AND FACTS              A. OVERVIEW              1. The Applicant, Mr. Cherniak, has brought an Application       for Judicial Review of a purported refusal of his       application to renew his Authorization to Possess dried       marijuana for medical purposes, and a correspondent licence       to produce marihuana for personal use.       In addition, the Applicant has brought the motion here in,       on an urgent basis, seeking the following relief:       - an extension of Applicant's MMAR exemption which expires       Jan 26 2013 under prevailing conditions pending resolution       of this judicial review; or in the alternative,       - a personal constitutional exemption under prevailing       conditions from the S.7 and S.4 prohibitions on production              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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