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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Why Traitor Conroy should do Gol    |
|    12 May 14 01:02:48    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              "How can you let Conroy take on the case after the       criticisms so far?"              JCT: Because, though I had to keep beating on him to keep       the Coalition off my back, I understood some mitigating       factors they did not in his defence. Not up to me to defend       him from my valid innuendoes.              1) I can't bet he expected the Possess Permits not to be       grandfathered with the Grow Permits. So the Left-Outs really       can't be his fault though his Allard decision lost it for       them, so, brutal me...              2) I can't blame him for not seeing the "Personal Medical       Use" limit on the exemption against S.5 trafficking because       I hadn't even seen the need. If you remember my first       parsing parsing of his Action, I joked he couldn't ask for       exemption from S.5 trafficking. We only had the Parker Ace       for S.4 Possession and Krieger Ace for S.7 Cultivation       but never an angle to demand the right to trafficking. Until       John brought up trading strains. I immediately wondered how       the Crown could play back at that and realized their only       way was "can't traffick to the kids." So out came the limit       for "Personal Medical Use." With S.5 covered, I could ask       for the first time ever to strike the word of the banned       list!! How easy to understand repeal. And there's a really       good chance I'd have never seen that if Conroy hadn't had       the insight to demand S.5 relief that I'd have missed.              3) It was pretty well financially impossible to produce the       proper legal evidentiary record against the 20 torts we       have. No Doctors alone took the whole of Mernagh's       resources. So what kind of magic do I have that I can handle       the doctors in minutes? Patient-Grower limit took all of       Sfetkopoulos'. Again, how can I do it in minutes? And       Grower-Garden limit took all of Beren's, same thing. Plus I       manage to magically cover another 13 torts.              So John had to pick from all the possible torts he was going       to have to highlight to get his clients their exemptions and       using the easiest ones to win made sense. The hash is       already won in the Owen Smith case so that's in for sure.       Ban on Outdoor sunlight is another good argument. Ban on in-       dwelling is requisite for those who want their self-grows.       The 150-gram limit seemed an easy win too.              But for him to prepare the documentation for the other 16       Big and Little Issues we have raised would have been       prohibitive so he has a ready excuse for using only the 4       easies, doesn't he, even if I painted him a traitor for       dropping the Big Guns? After all, he did say he considered       going after the other flaws later. (if he could afford it,       probably not but wanted to.)              Notice that all my critiques of him, Big Guns left out by a       traitor, turn into the best 4 peas he could shoot given the       financial limitations. He brought out the need for S.5       relief and I qualified it. Doesn't sound so much like an       oops. And let's face it, without it, I'd have never thought       of it and we wouldn't have the KISS "strike MF off the list"       we do now.              The reason he can do the legal counsel bit for all those       torts is that the numbers in my Expert Affidavit in Real       Science take the place of his evidentiary record's Expert       Witnesses guestimates in Social Science. My opinion that no       DIN deters doctors and financial support becomes fact when       the Crown can't challenge it. No more evidentiary record       needed. How would he prove that? How to show evidence that       doctors are deterred? How to show that no insurance does       matter? Seems obvious but how to show it to a judge? Not       easy though it's logically obvious. So the conundrum he       faced gathering evidence precluded his omni-barrel attack       that my elimination of such evidence by an expert opinion on       odds of survival allows.              Since he can now point out how using my Expert Stats       Affidavit lets him now also argue the full gamut of       objections, he has easy reason to step up to the Gatling Gun       he could never afford to build before.              So to have him appear in court to take on the main role in       the case, I give my 2 minutes expert statement on a tort,       and then he presents evidence from his 3,000 impact       statements (we only have 50 in the standardized affidavits       that can't come close to what he's got). He doesn't need any       other expert opinions from Social Scientists when he's got       the Expert Opinion from a Real Scientist. Open for extra       comments, close. Next point.              Yet, imagine if his 3,000 supporters laid the charge with       the anti-fraud centre with him, then let him inveigh against       the sumbitches who perjured themselves in his Allard case.              And if the RCMP won't charge, lead a motion for mandamus       that they do their duty, and then appeals. I've done it to       the top before. Not needing evidentiary record means we only       have to pay him for his time. Lead that attack and I'll even       fund-raise.              Do you get it, I'm willing to give up lead guerrilla counsel       chair to play solely the role of Expert Witness and let a       fearless QC with 40 years experience (I only have 35) do the       part I have no expertise in doing at all, zero, presenting       witness evidence. All I could do is present the math and       have no special skill or experience dealing with presenting       witnesses. So I'm ready to give up lead chair on the show so       I can focus on lead chair on the stand. (though I may be       stuck establishing the point at the counsel chair beside       him). No witness evidence at this point, I think. Maybe I       can?              So he forgot the limit, I'd have never thought of it. Any       Gold Stars going to remember a early oops if he's in on the       kill, if he delivers the coup de grace.              In other words, I've been stressing his half-empty glass and       could now stress his half-full contribution. All he has to       do is admit my Expert Affidavit saves him a ton of       evidentiary preparation that allows him to now finally bang       on all the torts he could never afford to bang on before.              And at the same time, he can pull HC's shield just before       his strike. What a one-two, strip of protection and shove in       the shiv. If he comes along, he can still come out of this a       hero. What a heroic sacrifice bunt at the end to expose the       heart of the matter. But if you also consider how his 3,000       financial supporters could easily be persuaded to sink a       final $2 to swamp the system, he himself said a lot more       applicants would express our concern, well, enough to cause       breakdown sure would express that concern and more too.              And all it takes is accepting that my Expert Stats Affidavit       liberates him from his usual necessary evidentiary record       and to strike at all the torts he'd ever wanted to strike at              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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