From: johnturmel@yahoo.com   
      
   TURMEL: Chronic Pain Revolutions too beaten up! deletes post!   
      
   JCT: Har har har. I'd slapped Laurie MacEachern for telling   
   an ailing friend about getting on Phelan's Relief Bandwagon.   
   A defender emerged:   
      
   Cronic Pain Revolutions   
   JCT: Do I really need to seen fighting with a chronic   
   cripple? Oh well, brain seems nasty enough   
      
   CPR: Listen John. I am pretty sick and tired of your antics.   
   JCT: Never called shivving people's reputations in public   
   "antics" before but I am having fun.   
      
   CPR: You're in no place to riducle others.   
   JCT: Actually, the overview will let me ridicule you too.   
   Watch.,   
      
   CPR: Especially people who spend their days uniting people   
   rather than causing divisions and rifts in the movement.   
      
   JCT: Uniting them in the wrong direction. Yeah team. Says   
   the Judas Goat to the flock: Let's be united, follow me up   
   to that nice big warm building up there, the   
   slaughterhouse... where the Judas veers off to safety at the   
   last minute. People wanting unity presume we're all aiming   
   at the same thing. Repealers and Antis? Duh.   
      
   CPR: I am not sure why you can't see why people would be   
   deterred by filing your paperwork without even reading it.   
      
   JCT: You're right, I just can't see why anyone would be   
   deterred from considering the card I'm offering them without   
   looking at it. I can't think of anything more more imbecilic   
   than being deterred by something you haven't even read.   
   Guess you don't see that having already folded the card you   
   didn't look at. That's about as brain-dead an excuse as you   
   could have come up with, do you realize that? So go ahead   
   and tell us the good reasons why you were deterred from   
   something you have no clue about?   
      
   CPR: Your presentation needs work.   
   JCT: Everyone's a critic. Made any recent presentations   
   you'd like to brag about?   
      
   CPR: If I hear of you criticizing any other good people like   
   Debbie Stultz-Giffin or Laurie MacEachern,   
      
   JCT: The two narc moles who focused on spreading the   
   nastiest comment they thought the judge had made about me   
   that deterred the first three people who read their   
   offerings from joining? Those other good people? "Bahahaha   
   Turmel Kits getting thrown out!" "Thanks Debbie, glad I   
   didn't join that bandwagon." "Are these the Turmel kits your   
   bad-mouthing?"   
      
   CPR: I will be here to call you   
   JCT: You're going to call the Great Canadian Gambler? Har   
   har har. Buster, you don't even have the ante. A dunce who   
   folds a card without looking at it is just my kind of tuna.   
      
   CP: on your needlessly aggressive, often childish, blowhard   
   antics.   
   JCT: Yes, I'm needlessly aggressive, often simplistic, blow   
   real hard tactics. Then again, I love inflicting pain on the   
   bad guys. And anyone who opposes my moves for repeal   
   deserves the pain I dish out, especially the saboteurs   
   who've deterred people from getting into Judge Phelan's   
   upcoming interim exemption Relief Line. Won't Gord Hume love   
   Debbie for dissuading from getting on Judge Phelan's   
   bandwagon. Har har har har har har. And don't I relish the   
   thought that he's going to suffer for his decision. Har har   
   har. I'm such a brute. Then again, he'll be blaming the liar   
   who misled him and not the brute who broke through the line   
   for him he could have followed had it not been for Band-Aid   
   Debbie's warning.   
      
   CPR: I am all for supporting those who have put their names   
   on the line but I do not like seeing good people deal with   
   this behavior. Grow up.   
   JCT: Sorry, people who oppose repeal are not good people and   
   will just have to get used to this behavior. The narc moles   
   hidden away all these years are exposed by their conspicuous   
   absence from the charge for repeal. Ask yourselves why your   
   organizational leaders aren't in on the charge. Where do you   
   think all the important moles end up if not at the top.   
   Laurie at the top of MMAR Patient's Lobby Group, Debbie at   
   the top of MUMMs, Alan Young at the top of the shysters, and   
   Marc-Boris St-Maurice at the top of the politics (who called   
   off the Marijuana Party leadership convention when I showed   
   up as a candidate, the leader decided it would be better to   
   call off the election and keep the same leader for another   
   year.) Sorry to expose some of the dirt on other heroic   
   narc moles you didn't know about. Then again,  you didn't   
   know about Debbie and Laurie until their recent sabotage but   
   our recent successes have flushed the boo-birds out into the   
   open.   
      
   Daniel Toney, Brendan Quinlan, Hetty Martin Baarsma and 20   
   others like this.   
      
   JCT: More "fold that card without looking at it" losers.   
      
   Caile McDonald Why not just block him from the site?   
      
   Alison Barker Tala: Agreed. We all have enough going on that   
   we help each other with or at least try to without one of   
   our "own" giving us added grief. He is entitled to his   
   opinion, maybe this group just isnt the place for it though?   
      
   Chronic Pain Revolutions: He just needs his attitude   
   adjusted. It's his fb postings that are getting out of hand.   
      
   JCT: Glad to find out my tidbits of skeletons in their   
   closets cause them so much pain.   
      
   Caile McDonald: His fb postings on this site or his own?   
      
   Chronic Pain Revolutions: His own.   
      
   Caile McDonald: So why are u publicly calling him out on   
   this page?   
   JCT: Because if I answer him here, and beat him up too   
   badly, he can delete the stream. That's what Debbie's done   
   to my streams at MUMMS. Seems the spectators were   
   complaining to her about the violence going on in the fight   
   they didn't have to attend. That's why Debbie deleted all my   
   beatings on the bad guys. Too much violence, she said,   
   between the repealers and anti-repealers. She wanted unity   
   between us.   
      
   Caile McDonald: Why not just deal with it in his page?   
   JCT: I'd heard about it and answer back, why else?   
      
   CM: Since the vast majority of us here on this site suffer   
   from chronic illness. The last thing we want to see is   
   drama. All (i am sure) see drama as a stressor and stressors   
   increase our chronic pain. Why bring drama onto a page that   
   is meant to help people?   
      
   Chronic Pain Revolutions He is calling out those I consider   
   as family. I belong to several groups.   
   JCT: And it's safer to call Turmel out over here where he   
   can't hear me than over on his page where he can. Har har   
   har. He's better stay off my page where any beatings he gets   
   stay forever.   
      
   Alison Barker Tala: Agreed caile, I thought this was going   
   on here hence my third comment. He should be free to say   
   what he likes on his own page, if you dont like it dont read   
   it,   
   JCT: Isn't that opinion rare to hear. What with Debbie   
   inviting complaints from the spectators to shut me down.   
      
      
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