From: johnturmel@yahoo.com   
      
   All we have to do is get the witnesses to testify and i   
   already told the judge its a state interference with our   
   medical purposes. The crown tried to say they werent allowed but   
   the judge said ok   
   September 17, 2013 11:18 am   
      
   BH: Your a smart man john i wouldnt feel stupid   
   Jct: Even I make mistakes, don't see things I could have. Believe   
   me, my mistakes have cost millions of lives.   
      
   BH: But your intelligence has saved lives when nobody elses could   
   Jct: Yes, I've got wins to my credit but not as many as I could   
   have had.   
      
   BH: I only have til nexy week to submit my list od witnesses is   
   the list available on the website or something?   
   September 20, 2013 1:41 pm   
   Jct: Okay, we have to get it ready for Joe Dickinson too. I'll   
   make a post at medpot-discuss later today.   
      
   Jct: Where's your courthouse?   
   BH: Kitchener   
   Jct: Great, your best witness Fangy Perfrement is from Kitchener   
   and will name 6 Kitchener doctors! Har har har.   
   who said no for no good reason   
      
   BH: Haha thats awesome. Theyre screwed.   
   I wont take any deal. Ill take it right to the end   
   Jct: Anyway, I go prepare the witness request post right now.   
   What date is your list due?   
   BH: Next friday. i posted when i got the date but no response   
   Anyways got to run or ill be late   
   Jct: What happens friday, just the list?   
   BH: Yes just the list and hopefully set a date   
   September 21, 2013 9:54 pm   
      
   BH: Im going to need the list of witnesses and will says i have   
   to take then to the crown in the morning   
   My email is bradleyshunt@gmail.con   
   Have to go to work now.  please email it so i can print it for   
   the morning thabks john   
   September 26, 2013 7:38 pm   
      
   Jct: I'll fax you the list of 55 witnesses. Mike hasn't sent me   
   the will-says yet but at least you'll have the list. Send me your   
   fax number. It's only 4 pages.   
   September 26, 2013 11:41 pm   
      
   BJ: Can you email it to me i dont have a fax if not ill have to   
   find a fax shop. Ok can you fax to 519 489 1329 Im heading to the   
   hosputal now coukd you fax me the list please   
   September 27, 2013 8:17 am   
      
   Jct: Okay. Hope you get it in time. It has the 3 pages of   
   witnesses and the list of torts prepared by the Crown in Mike   
   Spottiswood. It's faxed right now. Sorry, I was out playing   
   poker.   
      
   BH: Got it thanks so much   
   Jct: Good.   
   September 27, 2013 11:32 am   
      
   BH: And now they have it. they conplained about the format but   
   they accepted everythin as a draft so i can fix things up   
   September 27, 2013 1:09 pm   
   I think they may try and throw the witnesses out   
   I think it needed a cover?   
      
   Jct: They tried to throw the witnesses out in Spottiswood, a   
   Kutynec motion, and lost! Har har har.   
   September 28, 2013 12:02 am   
      
   BH: in ib court next friday and find out.   
   Jct: What happens next Friday?   
   BH: Im not sure. the court asked for the list of witnesses.  set   
   a date maybe   
   Jct: When does the Quash get heard?   
   BH: My quash got thrown out because i didnt serve both crowns.   
   my consitutuonal issue is coming up   
   September 30, 2013 12:22 am   
      
   Jct: I've got your list of witnesses and will-says ready for   
   faxing tonight or in the morning. Or later in the week. Before   
   Friday anyway.   
   BH:Thats awesome. I hope the judge accepts the list i gave him.   
   they were suggesting the court may not but they were going to   
   make a decision by tomorrow if not I hand everything up to the   
   judge on friday and hope he takes it then. if they accepted it in   
   the spottiswood case they may have to take it i will suggest that   
   as well   
      
   Jct: Okay, it's about 40 pages including the list of 55 witnesses   
   ready to come and the will-says of the best 10 to start.   
   BH:do you still have the wil says ready? I'm going to need them   
   Jct: Yes, do you have a fax?   
   BH: yes same number as before. one sec. 519 489 1329   
   Jct: I'll send it now in 2 piles about 20 pages each.   
   BH: sounds great to me. thanks for your help John. I appreciate   
   it.   
   Jct: It's going now. Should freak them out and more will-says   
   coming. But this should be enough, with the complete list, to   
   freak them out. Part 2 going out now.   
   BH: awesome. my crown is the regional manager which includes   
   london. Im sure she knows what she is getting into. As soon as I   
   said 55 witnesses she fired back with those witnesses shouldnt be   
   allowed but the judge didnt accept it   
   Jct: What's her name? Kim Johnson? Myfanwy Smith?   
   BH: Catrina Braid. Wife of Peter Braid Conservative MP for   
   Kitchener Waterloo which makes this extra special. at least to   
   me.   
   Jct: And keep in mind if you hear the Crown raise the word   
   "Kutynec Motion" to bar your witnesses, you can say it lost in   
   Spottiswood where Justice Heeney ruled he'd hear the witnesses   
   and decide for himself if they had nothing to say. Get it, they   
   lost trying to throw the medical witnesses out, and why not,   
   Mernagh got his in!   
   BH: I will im waiting for it   
      
   Jct: They brought it up in Joe Dickinson's case last time. But I   
   couldn't comment to help at the time.   
   BH: they will probably say i didnt follow the rules to which i   
   will say I submitted a piece of medical documentation that says   
   at the current time "Anxiety would make it impossible to work   
   Jct: What rules?   
   BH: court of justice act   
   Jct: What rule. what does it say   
   BH: Im not sure yet   
   Jct: what does it stop you from doing?   
   BH: but thats what they like to argue here   
   Jct: what do you think they want to argue?   
   BH: they will say i didnt follow the rules of service i imagine   
   im just guessing at this point   
   Jct: Service is a triviality. There's nothing they can do to stop   
   your constitutional motion from getting in if you file it 30 days   
   before trial. So you don't even need the witness list and could   
   simply tell them you'll file the constitutional 30 days before   
   like you're allowed. But filing it now starts the nightmare and   
   waiting proves nothing except they can't stop you at all from   
   deciding to file.   
      
   BH: i believe they have me at a judicial pretrial stage where im   
   expected to show the court what evidence im going to present in   
   order to proceed. but you are right   
   i know i get to file again like i said she accepted it as a   
   draft. she's really nice to me which is kind of odd   
   September 30, 2013 8:29 am   
   BH: I didnt get your faxes   
   Jct: Right. Sending. There was no answer at your machine. You   
   have to turn it on. I'm in till noon.   
   The number you gave me is not in use.   
   October 1, 2013 1:28 am   
      
   BH: right i dont know what happened i got this online fax service   
   i got the first set and then now they say they have no record of   
   me having an account ill have to get a new one sorry. damn   
   starnge if you ask me   
   April 17th, 9:49pm   
      
   JCT: So "My quash got thrown out because i didnt serve both   
      
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