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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Ray Turmel in Supreme Court for     |
|    08 Aug 14 17:59:37    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              JCT: This is really the weirdest case I've ever seen. Here's       Ray's Application for Leave to Appeal the Quebec Court of       Appeals decision not to stop his Preliminary Inquiry from       taking place before his "pre-plea" Motion to Amend/Quash!!               IN THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA        (ON APPEAL FROM THE QUEBEC COURT OF APPEAL)       BETWEEN:        Raymond Turmel        Applicant        Appellant in appeal        and        Her Majesty The Queen        Respondent               TABLE OF CONTENTS        RAYMOND TURMEL, APPLICANT              1. Notice of Application for Leave to Appeal..........1              2. Applicant's Certificate............................?              3. Oct 1 2013 Order of Bellehumeur J..................?              4. Nov 8 2013 Order of Vauclair J.C.A.................?              5. Dec 13 2013 Order of Bourque J.C.S.................?              6. Feb 7 2014 Order of Bellehumeur J..................2              7. May 22 2014 Order of Sirois J......................2              8. May 22 2014 Reasons of Sirois J. .................4              9. Jun 9 2014 Order of Hesler, Leger, Savard J.A.....3              10 Applicant's Memorandum............................                      NOTICE OF APPLICATION FOR LEAVE TO APPEAL        RAYMOND TURMEL, APPLICANT        (Pursuant to Rule 25 of the Supreme Court Rules)              TAKE NOTICE that Applicant seeks an Order overturning the       June 9 decision of the Quebec Court of Appeal and striking       down the precedent rulings of the Quebec Superior Court that       a S.601 Motion to Amend/Quash:       A) needs a "Notice of No Constitutional Question;"       B) needs to be heard by the Trial Judge Only with leave.              THE GROUNDS OF APPEAL are that the Criminal Code clearly       states that       A) a Notice of Constitutional Question is unnecessary for       non-constitutional S.601 motion;       B) a S.601 Motion may be sought without leave before the       Accused has pleaded before a Trial Judge.       Dated at St-Jerome on Aug 8 2014.       For the Applicant:       Raymond J. Turmel               APPLICANT'S MEMORANDUM        RAYMOND TURMEL, APPLICANT              PART I - OVERVIEW              1. Ray Turmel, a MMAR Marijuana Exemptee, was charged under       a) S.7(1) b) (2)(b) of the CDSA with production too many       marijuana plants while possessing 4 pounds toward an 11       pound storage limit. The plant limit will be challenged as       an unconstitutional limitation when logic would dictate that       storage amount be the limiting parameter.              2. Before the Accused has been offered the chance to plead,       a Preliminary Inquiry was scheduled for the presentation of       evidence.              3. Accused filed a motion under S.601 of the Criminal Code       (Amending the Indictment) to quash the counts therein. In       Ontario, the Motion to Quash before the accused has pleaded       is heard before the evidence is presented and before the       Accused has pleaded. In R. v. John Turmel [1994] the motion       to Quash was heard by Ontario Provincial Court Judge Nadelle       within a week of the charge, the trial was held on the       indictment a year later. In R. v. James Turner [2007], the       motion to Quash was dismissed by Justice Ray and the trial       is now about to commence in 2014.              4. At the Oct 1 2013 hearing, the Crown argued that deciding       whether the counts survive before presenting evidence at a       Preliminary Inquiry was "putting the cart before the horse,"       the Court struck the Quash Motion from the docket ruling it       was an issue for the Superior Court of Quebec.              5. On Nov 8 2013, a Motion to Quash was dismissed by       Superior Court Justice Vauclair J.C.A for no jurisdiction       without a Notice of Constitutional Question. The new       precedent of needing a Notice of No Constitutional Question       for a non-constitutional motion was appealed.              6. On Dec 13 2013, a second motion to Quash with a Notice of       Constitutional Question informing provincial Attorneys       General that NO constitutional issue was being raised was       dismissed by Justice Sophie Bourque J.C.S. for "No       jurisdiction" due to amendments to indictments being       reserved to the trial judge alone. This precedent was       appealed.              7. On Feb 7 2014, Judge Bellehumeur slated the Motion to       Amend/Quash to be heard before the Aug 18 2014 Preliminary       Inquiry.              8. On May 22 2014, Judge Sirois followed the new precedents       in dismissing the Motion to Amend/Quash ruling he had no       jurisdiction because:       1) the Accused had failed to file a Notice of No       Constitutional Question, and       2) only a Trial Judge could hear a S.601 Motion to Amend.              9. On Jun 9 2014, Quebec Court of Appeal Justices Hesler,       Leger and Savard (700-36-000999-135) dismissed the appeals       against the precedents ruling they lacked any jurisdiction       since the process was legitimately going on below.              PART II - ISSUES              10. Should the precedents stand that a S.601 Motion to       Amend/Quash:       A) needs a "Notice of No Constitutional Question;"       B) needs to be heard by the Trial Judge Only.              PART III - ARGUMENT              A) "NOTICE OF NO CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION"              11. Challenging the constitutional validity of the       possession and production prohibitions was successful in R.       v. Parker which took effect after July 31 2001 and the same       constitutional relief did not have to be applied for again.              12. Ontario Provincial Court Judge Phillips in R. v. J.P.       (2003) explained why S.601 Motions to Quash had no       constitutional issue being raised. It's not trying to strike       down a bad law, it's trying to establish a bad law was       already struck down in Parker [2001] and Krieger [2003] as       unknown to law, not unconstitutional while including:        "A Notice of Constitutional Question is not required for        an Application pursuant to S.601 of the Criminal Code to        quash the charges.              13. In a S.601 Application to Quash the charges, Justice       Rogin R. v. J.P. (2003), noted:        "[5] The Crown appeals to this court from this ruling.        The Crown complains that notwithstanding that J.P.'s        original application was not a Canadian Charter of        Rights and Freedoms application... the factum        specifically states that J.P. did not challenge the        constitutionality of the regulations which Phillips J.        found not to contain an offence."              B) TRIAL JUDGE ONLY WITH LEAVE              14. Section 601. of the Criminal Code says:        Amending defective indictment or count        601. (1) An objection to an indictment preferred under        this Part or to a count in an indictment, for a defect        apparent on its face, shall be taken by motion to quash              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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