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   John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All   
   TURMEL: Robert Roy Reply to Crown at SCC   
   13 Dec 14 01:47:45   
   
   From: johnturmel@yahoo.com   
      
   JCT: Robert Roy's Reply to the Crown's Response to his   
   Application for Leave to Appeal the refusal of the lower   
   courts to exempt him pending trial of his action for repeal   
   is served today! Keep in mind that Terry Parker, Stephen   
   Burrows and Ray Turmel also have Applications and each will   
   deal with different issues.   
      
   Terry already replied and he's a Never-In should should have   
   been first. Ray has his ATP and represents their concerns   
   under the Manson Order extending the MMAR that threatens   
   him.   
      
   Robert Roy's a "Left-Out," by only 3 days. His exemption   
   expired 3 days before Justice Manson grand-fathered his grow   
   permit but not his possess permit. Neat omission. He's   
   appealed for an interim exemption for personal medical use   
   and filed an Application for Leave to Appeal the refusals   
   below, the Crown gave a boiler-plate response, and his Reply   
   on his personal angle:   
      
   Robert Roy   
      
   Dec 12 2014   
      
   Mr. Roger Bilodeau, Registrar   
   Supreme Court of Canada   
   310 Wellington St.  Ottawa, K1A 0J1   
      
   Mr. Registrar   
      
   Re: Robert Roy v. Her Majesty the Queen, File No. 36146   
      
   Given the Crown has provided a boiler-plate Response to my   
   Application and to those of Terrance Parker (35156), Ray   
   Turmel (36159) and Stephen Burrows (36147), I adopt the   
   salient arguments in their Replies while focusing on my   
   particular medical situation.   
      
   I have several severe medical problems which were well-   
   assuaged by marijuana I grew quite affordably under my MMAR   
   Authorization To Possess and Produce. In late 2013, Health   
   Canada announced that all MMAR personal production gardens   
   had to be shut down and all stored stocked destroyed by   
   April 1 2014 when the MMPR took effect.   
      
   On Mar 18 2014, my exemption expired with no practical   
   purpose in renewing under the MMAR because:   
   1) I had enough to last and any new crop had to be destroyed   
   in 2 weeks;   
   2) it would have wasted $400 in doctor fees to apply;   
   3) I'm on long-term social services disability pension and   
   could never afford to apply for the high-priced product sold   
   by a Licensed Producer under the MMPR.   
      
   On Mar 21 2014, three days later, Justice Manson's Order in   
   Allard v. HMQ grand-fathered my Grow Permit back to 2013 but   
   not my Possess Permit. Only current permits remained valid.   
   Had I renewed my MMAR permits for only 3 more days, both   
   would have been validated, not just the one. How could the   
   Court have not grand-fathered both? Due to Health Canada's   
   Directive, I was "Left-Out" of the Manson relief by 3 days!!   
      
   How many of Canada's 25,000 medical growers with enough to   
   last were similarly "Left-Out" by opting not to plant a crop   
   to just be destroyed? If just those who expired within 3   
   months of the "April Fool Destruct Day" gave up like I and   
   Stephen Burrows did, that's a quarter, 6,000 legal medical   
   growers Left-Out. Probably many more. The Allard decision   
   shut down more grows than the nation's police combined, the   
   only difference being the police shut down illegal grows and   
   the Court shut down 6,000 previously-legal grows. Yet, the   
   Parker Court ruled it unconstitutional to have to choose   
   between prison and our health.   
      
   Even two of the four Allard Plaintiffs were Left-Out and   
   their appeal now attempts to remedy that one omission of not   
   grand-fathering our Possess Permits with the Grow Permits   
   that cut off thousands of medical users from their legal   
   status and into outlawry.   
      
   The Allard decision resulted in even more loss of access by   
   extending permits without extending the Health Canada   
   infrastructure to amend those permits which the Allard   
   Appeal is now attempting to redress: no provision for   
   address changes, grower changes, outdoor-indoor changes,   
   dosage changes, all no longer possible without the Health   
   Canada infrastructure. Move, permit expires. Designated   
   Grower moves or dies, permit expires. The omissions in the   
   Allard remedy have resulted in a continuing catastrophe   
   affecting only once-legal medical users and I'm one of those   
   once-legal outlaws.   
      
   Finally, the loss of genetics must be staggering. Strains   
   bred over a decade mostly now gone since it's doubtful the   
   thousands who shut down transfered their genetics to one of   
   the few LPs.   
      
   But for only 3 days not being able to predict the future   
   Manson decision and I'd be growing my own medication   
   economically like many others still now do. But for 3   
   unlucky days, I am now an outlaw if I keep treating my   
   conditions with the best medication I've yet found which   
   recent studies in jurisdictions that have recently repealed   
   their cannabis prohibition also support. But for 3 lousy   
   days, I am now faced with insurmountable hurdles to obtain   
   my prescribed medication. That the courts below could   
   dismiss my plea for interim exemption for "insufficient   
   evidence of illness" and for "no reasons," only adds salt to   
   my wounds.   
      
   As I appealed for the very same remedy as the Allard Left-   
   Outs are appealing for, I hope they find a way to grand-   
   father our Possess Permits with our Grow Permits. But until   
   Justice Manson's omissions are corrected, an interim   
   exemption was and is the only possible remedy that can get   
   me access to my medicine right away.   
      
   It would have been the only possible remedy for David Shea   
   whose action for exemption was stayed below. He couldn't   
   show the court sufficient evidence of his medical need and   
   now he's dead, no more chance to show he really needed it.   
   Considering the thousands of officially medically-needy   
   patients who lost their affordable access to medication like   
   I and Stephen Burrows did, and the sufferings we've endured,   
   the bureaucratic and judicial genocide going on staggers the   
   mind.   
   ____________________   
   Robert Roy   
      
   JCT: And Stephen Burrows wanting to continue shrinking his   
   tumor coming up last.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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