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   vefmvfem@lycos.com to Mike Corley   
   M`I'5-Perse cution - Fo ur Ye ars of MI5   
   26 Dec 07 09:00:00   
   
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   Four. Years of "MI5 Persecution" Posts on Internet Newsgroups   
      
   For approximately the first three years of the. MI5 persecution, from June   
   1990 until late 1992, I. kept as quiet as possible, in the hope that by not   
   reacting, MI5s interest in me would decrease and they would simply go. away   
   of their own accord. This. is the sort of behaviour some people employ   
   against bullies; if the bullies arent getting a reaction,. then they might   
   simply. go away and victimize someone else.   
      
   Unfortunately, this. tactic didnt work. The quieter I became, the more   
   shrill and hysterical the noise from the. Security Service operatives. For   
   about two years I didnt watch TV news at all. Yet. this only heightened   
   their. obsessed fixation; they continued to follow me wherever I went, they   
   continued to induce. harassment at work by managers and fellow workers, and   
   they continued to encourage me. to commit suicide. They seemed to regard my   
   refusal to react as a crime which they would have to "put right" by. ever   
   more extreme forms. of abuse.   
      
   Finally, in 1995, I changed tactics radically. Since. late 1994 I had had   
   accounts with internet providers. in Ontario, Canada. I discovered the   
   cornucopia of. internet newsgroups, on every topic from consumer   
   electronics, to. politics and legal topics, and I discovered online   
   services such as Compuserve and AOL. In May 1995, I made. the first posting   
   to the conspiracy newsgroup, on the subject of "BBCs. Hidden Shame".   
      
   BBC's Hidden. Shame   
      
   The internet newsgroup discussion, which has. now reached its fourth   
   anniversary, started with an. article in alt.conspiracy, which I reproduce   
   here.   
      
   Date: Thu May  4. 18:27:24 1995   
   Newsgroups:. alt.conspiracy   
   Subject: BBC's Hidden. Shame   
      
   Remember the two-way televisions in George Orwell's 1984? The ones which   
   watched. you   
   back?. Which you could never get rid of, only the sound could be turned down?   
      
   Well the country which brought Orwell. into the world has made his nightmare   
   follow into   
   the world after him. Since 1990 the British. have been waging war against one   
   of their   
   own citizens using surveillance to invade privacy and a campaign of. abuse in   
   the   
   transmitted. media in their efforts to humiliate their "victim".   
      
   And the most remarkable thing about it is that what they do is not even   
   illegal -. the   
   UK. has no laws to protect the privacy of its citizens, nor does it proscribe   
   harassment   
   or abuse except in the case of racial. abuse.   
      
   A lot. of people in England know this to be going on, yet so far they have   
   maintained   
   perfect "omerta"; not a sound, not a squeak. has escaped into the English   
   press, and for   
   all the covert harassment absolutely nothing has. come out into the public   
   domain.   
      
   Have the British gone mad? I think we should be. told   
      
   At this point, I did not name MI5 as my persecutors.. I was still unsure   
   that they were the ones responsible for the "psychological terrorism".. In   
   followup posts however I did name them; and the persecutors. have never   
   denied the claim; so I think my guess is valid. (The Security. Service   
   Tribunal. in 1997 have said "no determination in your favour was made", but   
   it is a well established fact. that MI5 lies routinely to the Tribunal   
   which has never found in favour of a plaintiff,. so no conclusions can be   
   drawn from. this.)   
      
   This first post was made. to alt.conspiracy, but further posts were made to   
   the UK-local newsgroups, in. particular uk.misc but also uk.legal and   
   uk.politics (which is now called. uk.politics.misc). Some time ago I tried   
   to take. the battle to the Compuserve forums, UKPOLITICS (which is now   
   called UKCURRENT - current affairs),. but my articles were censored by the   
   forum operators.. Such censorship is impossible on the internet newsgroups.   
      
   Police Refuse to. Act   
      
   I have complained several. times to the Metropolitan Police, who have each   
   time. refused to help.   
      
   From: Green.    
   Newsgroups:. uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british   
   Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution:. Why Aren't the British Police Doing Their   
   Job?   
   Reply-To:. Green@guidion.demon.co.uk   
   Date: Sun Apr . 7 21:13:30 1996   
      
   In. article    
            .  bu765@torfree.net "Mike Corley" writes:   
      
   >Last Easter (1995) I went into the local police station in London and. spoke   
   to   
   >an officer about the harassment against. me. But I couldn't provide tangible   
   >evidence; what people. said, in many cases years ago, is beyond proof, and   
   >without something to support my statements I cannot expect a police officer.   
   to   
   >take. the complaint seriously.   
      
   This in itself dos not suggest. that the police have it in for you. The old   
   bill   
   operates on extremely tight spending limits forced on them by that. pillock   
   Michael   
   Howard, and without evidence, they. often have higher priorities than chasing   
   something   
   that. cannot go to court.   
      
   I doubt that the police are. actually being leant on, but they probably   
   realise that if   
   they looked into this, they would be leant on hard. The met always. stays away   
   from   
   anything that looks like it has Defence, Security. or secret service interest   
   already,   
   because they realise that they are below these government. agencies in the   
   general   
   pecking. order.   
      
   If I walked. into my local nick and complained that MI5 were snooping on me,   
   they would   
   show me the door without even looking at. my evidence, because that bored desk   
   seargant   
   with. only five years to go before he retires doesn't want to start fucking   
   about with   
   somebody who has incurred the wrath of Stella Rimington.  He. would rather   
   deal with the   
   lost dogs and driving licence producers, eat his. cheese and pickle sandwiches   
   and piss   
   off home at the end of his shift than have some high ranking spook having a.   
   go at his   
   boss and. getting him a bollocking.   
      
   In short, you have earned much sympathy but little surprise..  Just remember   
   that saying   
   about the. enemy of your enemies.   
      
   Most recently, I wrote in March 1999 to Charing Cross Police. Station   
   CID. They. did not acknowledge or reply to my letter. When I phoned them   
   up, the detective Id written to treated me to a sadly. not unusual display   
   of police bigotry, with an uneducated rant about "your. paranoid rubbish".   
      
   It would be. nice to think that such uneducated bigotry is  something other   
   than. wholly typical of police behaviour, but unfortunately that is an   
   illusion that. is rapidly dispelled.   
      
   Uncorruptible. Jon Snow of Channel Four News   
      
   From previous articles the reader will know what. I think Jon Snow has   
   recently been. watching me while he reads Channel Four News in the   
   evening. Recently. I digitized a few moments of one such broadcast, where   
   his face twists into a smile, without there being anything in. the news   
   broadcast to cause merriment. Here is a usenet. post from some time ago on   
   MI5s "bought and. paid for" tools in the so-called "free" press.   
      
      
      
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