From: campbell@neotext.ca   
      
   On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 05:16:32 -0000 (UTC), Webbster wrote:   
      
   > Dhu on Gate  wrote in   
   > news:10gt4a2$3dd90$4@dont-email.me:   
   >   
   >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 12:17:27 -0700, lomonosov wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 10:59:38 -0800   
   >>> a425couple  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Ryan Williams Bay of Quinte   
   >>>> onSseopdtr4c   
   >>>>   ·   
   >>>> 🇨🇦 Canada’s Wait-Time Crisis Compared to the World   
   >>>> here are the wait times:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 🇨🇦 Canada   
   >>>> • MRI: 80–90 days average   
   >>>> • CT: 60–70 days   
   >>>> • Surgery: 30 weeks median wait   
   >>>> • Deaths while waiting: 23,746   
   >>>> 🇵🇱 Poland   
   >>>> • MRI: 7–14 days (private pathway)   
   >>>> • CT: Same week with private option   
   >>>> • Surgeries: Weeks, not months   
   >>>> • Deaths while waiting: tiny fraction of Canada   
   >>>> 🇺🇸 United States   
   >>>> • MRI: 24–48 hours (insured)   
   >>>> • CT: Same day   
   >>>> • Surgeries: Days or weeks   
   >>>> • Deaths while waiting: not tracked… because wait-lists are rare   
   >>>> 🇬🇧 United Kingdom (NHS)   
   >>>> • MRI: 25–35 days   
   >>>> • CT: 1–3 weeks   
   >>>> • Surgeries: long waits, but far fewer die waiting   
   >>>> • Deaths while waiting: ≈310   
   >>>> Now the real problem…   
   >>>> ⸻   
   >>>> 🇨🇦 23,746 Canadians died waiting for surgery or scans last   
   >>>> year This is not normal.   
   >>>> This is not happening anywhere else in the developed world.   
   >>>> And it’s getting worse.   
   >>>> ⸻   
   >>>> 🇨🇦 Canada   
   >>>> 23,746 deaths while on wait-lists (2024–25).   
   >>>> Months for MRIs. Months for CTs. Months for surgery.   
   >>>> The longest waits in the developed world… and the highest death   
   >>>> toll from delays.   
   >>>> ⸻   
   >>>> 🇵🇱 Poland   
   >>>> Public system with a legal private option…   
   >>>> • MRI in 7–14 days   
   >>>> • Surgeries in weeks, not half-a-year   
   >>>> No national crisis of patients dying waiting for care.   
   >>>> Poland proves that choice shortens waits.   
   >>>> ⸻   
   >>>> 🇺🇸 United States   
   >>>> The US issues are about cost — not speed.   
   >>>> Urgent care is immediate. Elective surgery is fast.   
   >>>> They don’t track “died waiting for surgery” because wait-lists   
   >>>> almost never exist.   
   >>>> ⸻   
   >>>> 🇬🇧 United Kingdom (NHS)   
   >>>> Even a struggling NHS reports ≈310 deaths linked to delayed major   
   >>>> surgery. Canada: 23,746.   
   >>>> The gap is staggering.   
   >>>> ⸻   
   >>>> 📌 The truth   
   >>>> Canada now has:   
   >>>> • the slowest system,   
   >>>> • the longest waits, and   
   >>>> • the highest number of deaths from delayed care in the developed   
   >>>> world.   
   >>>   
   >>> + 1   
   >>>   
   >>> FYI   
   >>   
   >> Both China and Russia have better health care and education today   
   >> than anything America has had.  Rich Chinese don't have to swim   
   >> in a sea of illiterate, sickly, commons to enjoy Civilization.   
   >>   
   > You can talk about wait times and all that shit, but the US is at the bottom   
   on   
   > virtually every health measure.  People in other countries live longer,   
   lower infant   
   > and maternal deaths, etc.  AND the US spends more on healthcare than those   
   othe   
   > countries,   
      
   Unfortunately this is so.  And Canada would do well to look at China's system;   
   as I've said elsewhere Progress is not finished there.   
      
   Dhu   
      
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