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   Message 995,393 of 997,123   
   lomonosov to Dhu on Gate   
   Re: Canada's socialized health care   
   05 Dec 25 13:42:34   
   
   From: bubbles@in.valid   
      
   On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 23:08:51 -0000 (UTC)   
   Dhu on Gate  wrote:   
      
   > On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 12:17:27 -0700, lomonosov wrote:   
   >    
   > > On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 10:59:38 -0800   
   > > a425couple  wrote:   
   > >      
   > >> Ryan Williams Bay of Quinte   
   > >> onSseopdtr4c   
   > >>   ·   
   > >> 🇨🇦 Canada’s Wait-Time Crisis Compared to the World   
   > >> here are the wait times:   
   > >>    
   > >> 🇨🇦 Canada   
   > >> • MRI: 80–90 days average   
   > >> • CT: 60–70 days   
   > >> • Surgery: 30 weeks median wait   
   > >> • Deaths while waiting: 23,746   
   > >> 🇵🇱 Poland   
   > >> • MRI: 7–14 days (private pathway)   
   > >> • CT: Same week with private option   
   > >> • Surgeries: Weeks, not months   
   > >> • Deaths while waiting: tiny fraction of Canada   
   > >> 🇺🇸 United States   
   > >> • MRI: 24–48 hours (insured)   
   > >> • CT: Same day   
   > >> • Surgeries: Days or weeks   
   > >> • Deaths while waiting: not tracked… because wait-lists are rare   
   > >> 🇬🇧 United Kingdom (NHS)   
   > >> • MRI: 25–35 days   
   > >> • CT: 1–3 weeks   
   > >> • Surgeries: long waits, but far fewer die waiting   
   > >> • Deaths while waiting: ≈310   
   > >> Now the real problem…   
   > >> ⸻   
   > >> 🇨🇦 23,746 Canadians died waiting for surgery or scans last year   
   > >> This is not normal.   
   > >> This is not happening anywhere else in the developed world.   
   > >> And it’s getting worse.   
   > >> ⸻   
   > >> 🇨🇦 Canada   
   > >> 23,746 deaths while on wait-lists (2024–25).   
   > >> Months for MRIs. Months for CTs. Months for surgery.   
   > >> The longest waits in the developed world… and the highest death   
   > >> toll from delays.   
   > >> ⸻   
   > >> 🇵🇱 Poland   
   > >> Public system with a legal private option…   
   > >> • MRI in 7–14 days   
   > >> • Surgeries in weeks, not half-a-year   
   > >> No national crisis of patients dying waiting for care.   
   > >> Poland proves that choice shortens waits.   
   > >> ⸻   
   > >> 🇺🇸 United States   
   > >> The US issues are about cost — not speed.   
   > >> Urgent care is immediate. Elective surgery is fast.   
   > >> They don’t track “died waiting for surgery” because wait-lists   
   > >> almost never exist.   
   > >> ⸻   
   > >> 🇬🇧 United Kingdom (NHS)   
   > >> Even a struggling NHS reports ≈310 deaths linked to delayed major   
   > >> surgery. Canada: 23,746.   
   > >> The gap is staggering.   
   > >> ⸻   
   > >> 📌 The truth   
   > >> Canada now has:   
   > >> • the slowest system,   
   > >> • the longest waits, and   
   > >> • the highest number of deaths from delayed care in the developed   
   > >> world.     
   > >    
   > > + 1   
   > >    
   > > FYI     
   >    
   > Both China and Russia have better health care and education today    
   > than anything America has had.     
      
   Oddly both are fatally corrupted nations known for statist fascism and   
   endless oppression of their people, so...   
      
   > Rich Chinese don't have to swim    
   > in a sea of illiterate, sickly, commons to enjoy Civilization.   
      
   If breathing coal dust can be called "civilization".   
      
   Even the lately muzzified UK looked at their historic  buildings and   
   said "no more of this".   
      
   https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/climate/britain-last-coal-power-plant.html   
      
   Sept. 30, 2024   
   Britain, the nation that launched a global addiction to coal 150 years ago, is   
   shutting down its last coal-burning power station on Monday.   
      
   That makes Britain first among the world’s major, industrialized   
   economies to wean itself off coal — all the more symbolic because it   
   was also the first to burn tremendous amounts of it to fuel the   
   Industrial Revolution, inspiring the rest of the world to follow suit.   
   > Human Progress is an ongoing process.   
   >    
   > Dhu   
      
   Human "progress" is:   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros#/media/File:Serpiente_alquimica.jpg   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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