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   Message 995,536 of 997,123   
   Kenito Benito to Attila   
   Re: More on Trump Derangement and I.C.E.   
   13 Dec 25 10:15:55   
   
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   From: Kenito@Benito.naw   
      
   On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 07:57:20 -0500, Attila  wrote:   
      
   >On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 03:32:43 -0800, Kenito Benito   
   > in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 06:10:12 -0500, Attila  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 23:06:14 +0000, REAL Tall Henry   
   >>> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 16:50:29 -0500, Loose Cannon    
   >>>>wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 00:13:28 -0800, Michael Ejercito   
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>https://ethicsalarms.com/2025/12/11/more-on-trump-derangement-and-i-c-e/   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>More on Trump Derangement and I.C.E.   
   >>>>>>December 11, 2025 / Jack Marshall   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>         
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>The only derangement is you. You follow a known quack like a baby duck   
   >>>>>and its mother, licking his ass along the way. You find your   
   >>>>>'opinions' reading plagiarized nonsense from apes, and you continue to   
   >>>>>deny your presence at the Queen Mary parking lot. That's derangement!   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Yup.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Indeed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>It sure, is.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>etc.   
   >>>   
   >>>TDR is real and can be found in many places.   
   >>   
   >>     Pardon my ignorance, but what is TDR?   
   >   
   >The result of my not proof-reading my comment.   
   >   
   >TDS - Trump Derangement Syndrome.   
   >   
      
        That makes much more sense.   
      
   >>   
   >>>ICE is doing   
   >>>what they are required to do under federal law as passed by   
   >>>Congress and signed by the President.   
   >>>   
   >>>Exactly what is ICE doing that is illegal?   
   >>   
   >>     Deporting people WITHOUT due process.   
   >   
   >They came here without any due process.   
      
        Yet we have learned, and are learning, of MANY who were here   
   legally being deported.   
        When refugees come here and are granted asylum, they're legal.   
   They may violate a law, or laws, that causes that protection to be   
   removed. But without due process, how can we know they committed such   
   an act?   
        Without due process, there is no means for them to prove they are   
   here legally. ICE could grab you and deport you, claiming you're   
   actually illegal. Without due process, you couldn't present evidence   
   proving that you are legal.   
      
   >Why should they get   
   >the legal protection of a legal citizen?   
      
        Everyone within the boarders has a Constitutional right to due   
   process. Please see Shaughnessy v. United States ex rel. Mezei, 345   
   U.S. 206, 212 (1953), Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202, 215 (1982), and   
   Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678, 693 (2001). The last one is, perhaps,   
   the best since it holds that due process applies to all persons within   
   the United States, including aliens, whether their presence here is   
   lawful, or not.   
        You will note the Constitution states in the Fifth Amendment, the   
   ones SCOTUS used, all PERSONS, not all citizens.   
        You are certainly free to lobby for an amendment that restricts,   
   or eliminates the right to Due Process. I don't think you will find   
   successes, but you guarantee failure if you don't try.   
         You may also file a writ of certiorari, either yourself or   
   through a lawyer, to argue to have a new ruling that negates the   
   previous ones.   
      
   --   
   Kenito Benito   
   Strategic Writer,   
   Psychotronic World Dominator.   
   And FEMA camp counselor.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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