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   AlleyCat to All   
   Why No Whining and Crying from 2009 to 2   
   08 Jan 26 23:45:52   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.liberalism   
   From: katt@gmail.com   
      
   On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 10:54:13 -0500,  -hh says...   
      
   > They're merely YA luzer troll who's not worked in policy development, in   
   > both domestically -or- international venues, let alone both   
      
   > We probably could fix a decent amount of our domestic LEO problems if we   
   > were to abolish qualified immunity and adopt the UCMJ standards instead.   
      
   And let crime and criminals flourish?   
      
   No, thank you.   
      
   Criminals need to know that you don't have to have a "weapon", such as a gun   
   or knife, to be committing a serious crime, like vehicular manslaughter up to   
   1st degree murder, if you try to run over police officers.   
      
   I don't remember you whining and crying this much, when police officers shot   
   and/or killed suspects, who tried to run them over, from 2009-2015.   
      
   Why or why not?   
      
   Oh... yeah... you gay ass fucks (literal meaning) were in love with the black   
   Messiah and he could do no wrong.   
      
   The same way you're blaming law enforcement and Trump for this, you could just   
   as easily blamed Obama for these:   
      
      
   During Obama's reign of terror (3.5 MILLION illegals deported) - 2009 to 2015-   
   several notable law enforcement shootings occurred involving suspects who used   
   their vehicles as weapons against officers. These incidents often reached the   
   Supreme Court to clarify when such force is considered legally "reasonable."   
      
   Here are specific examples and legal milestones from that time-frame:   
   Major Legal Cases (2009-2015)   
      
   These cases set the precedent for shooting at moving vehicles during that era:   
      
   Mullenix v. Luna (2015): The Supreme Court granted qualified immunity to a   
   Texas state trooper who shot and killed a fleeing suspect from an overpass.   
   The suspect had threatened to shoot officers and was driving toward another   
   officer who was manning a spike strip.   
      
      
   Specific Shooting Incidents (2009-2015)   
      
   Below are documented cases of law enforcement firing on suspects attempting to   
   ram or run over officers:   
      
   Date - Location - Suspect - Description   
      
   Oct 19,2009 - Austell, GA - Unnamed male - Shot after driving toward deputies   
   who approached his car while investigating a suspicious person report.   
      
   Nov 14,2009 - Macon, GA - Bradley Gastin - Shot while attempting to run over   
   police in a stolen vehicle following a report of a carjacking.   
      
   Nov 17,2009 - Augusta, GA - Michael C. Nestor - Shot after backing his vehicle   
   toward officers who were attempting to serve a drug possession warrant.   
      
   July 3,2014 - Denver, CO - Ryan Ronquillo - Denver police fired more than a   
   dozen shots after Ronquillo, a wanted felon in a stolen car, backed into a   
   squad car and allegedly drove toward officers.   
      
   June 13,2015 - Dallas, TX - James Boulware - After ramming a Dallas Police   
   patrol car and shooting at headquarters from an armored van, Boulware was   
   killed by a police sniper during a standoff after he continued to threaten   
   officers with the vehicle and explosives.   
      
   During the years 2009 to 2015, there were several high-profile incidents where   
   law enforcement used deadly force against suspects who were using vehicles to   
   ram or run over officers.   
      
   The following list highlights specific cases across various states and the   
   legal context surrounding them.   
      
   Notable Incidents (2009-2015)   
      
   Date - Location - Suspect - Details of Incident   
      
   Nov 14,2009 - Macon, GA - Bradley Gastin - Officers pursued a stolen vehicle   
   following a carjacking. Gastin was shot and killed after he attempted to run   
   over police officers with the vehicle.   
      
   Nov 17,2009 - Augusta, GA - Michael C. Nestor - While serving a drug   
   possession warrant, police approached Nestor. He was shot after backing his   
   vehicle toward officers in an attempt to flee.   
      
   March 23,2010 - Tulia, TX - Israel Leija, Jr. - After an 18-minute high-speed   
   chase, a trooper shot at the vehicle's engine block from an overpass to stop   
   him as he drove toward an officer manning spike strips. (Mullenix v. Luna)   
      
   July 3,2014 - Denver, CO - Ryan Ronquillo - Denver police fired into a stolen   
   car after Ronquillo backed into a squad car and allegedly drove toward   
   officers at a funeral home.   
      
   Feb 25,2015 - Oklahoma City, OK - Unnamed (37m) - A suspect died from gunshot   
   wounds after attempting to run over law enforcement officers with his vehicle   
   during a confrontation.   
      
   June 13,2015 - Dallas, TX - James Boulware - Following an attack on police HQ   
   with an armored van, Boulware was shot by a sniper after ramming a patrol car   
   and continuing to use the vehicle as a threat.   
      
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   "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition   
      
   All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.   
      
   "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has   
   been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the   
   point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."   
      
   Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the   
   Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three distinct phases or   
   stages:   
      
   "In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The   
   president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were   
   all it took to change the world."   
      
   "The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's   
   vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of   
   hyperbole."   
      
   "As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from   
   reality."   
      
   The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk   
   opposition from liberals to anything and everything Trump does. If Trump   
   announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would   
   suggest he was up to something nefarious, according to the logic of TDS.   
   There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be   
   received positively by TDSers.   
      
   The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early   
   2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was a punch line for late-   
   night comics and nothing more.   
      
   Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first   
   coined by the late conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer back in 2003.   
   The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in   
   otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay -   
   the very existence of George W. Bush."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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