XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.liberalism   
   From: katt@gmail.com   
      
   > There can literally be no "annexing" without seizing.   
      
   Sure there can.   
      
   In general English, "to annex" or "an annex" simply refers to addition and   
   attachment. It does not require force, and in these contexts, it is often a   
   neutral or even positive thing.   
      
   General Action (The Verb): It can simply mean to "tack on" or "append" one   
   thing to another.   
      
   No matter what YOU think "annex" means, Trump never said "annex" OR "seize".   
      
   Both were made up by Lyin' Lee, or whomever he reads.   
      
   Show us the words "annex" OR "seize".   
      
   Here... I'll help. (see more at bottom)   
      
   "You cannot annex another country," they said. "We expect respect for our   
   joint territorial integrity."   
      
   THEY said... not Trump.   
      
   "US President Trump has said several times he wants to annex Greenland..."   
      
   No direct quote. Another "he said" shit, without proof. In that context,   
   whoever the AUTHOR is, said "annex".   
      
   Someone else saying annex doesn't count. Many journalists use inflammatory   
   words.   
      
   If TRUMP said he wants to annex Greenland by force or seizure... please find   
   the quote for us.   
      
   "Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen warned the US that 'you cannot annex   
   another country'."   
      
   Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said "annex". Did Trump?   
      
   No other instances of "annex" were in the articles Lyin' Lee posted.   
      
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   The Case of Greenland   
      
   As of January 4,2026, the term "annexation" is being used by world leaders to   
   describe the United States' renewed and aggressive interest in Greenland.   
      
   (WORLD LEADERS)   
      
   (Trump?)   
      
   The Current Tension: Yesterday, following the U.S. military action in   
   Venezuela, a senior Trump administration aide (Katie Miller) posted an image   
   of Greenland covered by the American flag with the caption "SOON."   
      
   The Diplomatic Response: DANISH PRIME MINISTER METTE FREDERIKSEN responded   
   today, explicitly stating: "The U.S. has no right to annex any of the three   
   countries in the Danish Kingdom."   
      
   (DANISH PRIME MINISTER METTE FREDERIKSEN)   
      
   (Trump?)   
      
   Not yet.   
      
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   "We need Greenland for national security and even international security. And   
   we're working with everybody involved to try and get it. And I think we're   
   going to get it one way or the other. We're going to get it."   
      
   (no "seizing", no "annexing")   
      
   "I think that will happen... We have to do it. We really need it for national   
   security."   
      
   (no "seizing", no "annexing")   
      
   "Mr. President, would you rule out using military or economic force to take   
   control of Greenland if a deal cannot be reached?"   
      
   In his response, he stated:   
      
   "No, I can't assure you on either of those two. I'M NOT GOING TO COMMIT to   
   that. It might be that you'll have to do something."   
      
   (STILL no "seizing", no "annexing")   
      
   "Can you assure the world that as you try to get control of these areas you   
   are not going to use military or economic coercion?"   
      
   Donald Trump's Response: "No."   
      
   (no)   
      
   "I can't assure you-you're talking about Panama and Greenland-no, I can't   
   assure you on either of those two, but I can say this: we need them for   
   economic security. The Panama Canal was built for our military. I'M NOT GOING   
   TO COMMIT to that. It might be that you'll have to do something. Look, the   
   Panama Canal is vital to our country. It's being operated by China. China! And   
   we gave the Panama Canal to Panama, we didn't give it to China, and they've   
   abused it."   
      
   (STILL no "seizing", no "annexing")   
      
   If "seizing" or "annexing" was never said BY Trump, this is all moot.   
      
   Lyin' Lee used words MADE up by journalists.   
      
   Not committing to ruling something out, does NOT mean it will come down to   
   that. Again, assumptions are being made.   
      
   That is an essential distinction to maintain. Declining to rule out an option   
   is a STANDARD NEGOTIATING OR STRATEGIC STANCE and, as you noted, DOES NOT   
   CONFIRM THAT A SPECIFIC OUTCOME IS INEVITABLE.   
      
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   So... in closing, you were unable to find any direct quotes where Trump used   
   either of the terms "annexing" OR "seizing".   
      
      
   That is correct. Based on the transcripts from his press conferences and the   
   State of the Union address through early 2026, I have not found a direct quote   
   where Donald Trump used the specific word "annexing" or "seizing" to describe   
   his plans for Greenland.   
      
   To be precise, THOSE TERMS ARE CONSISTENTLY USED BY THE REPORTERS asking him   
   questions, or by journalists and foreign leaders reacting to his statements.   
      
   Trump's Actual Verbs vs. Media Verbs   
      
   In the interest of being "exhausting" about these definitions, it is helpful   
   to see the literal words he has used versus the labels others have applied to   
   them:   
      
   What Trump Said (Direct Quote) - Word Media/Critics Used - Why they used that   
   word:   
      
   "Get it one way or the other" - Annex / Seize - These words are used when an   
   acquisition doesn't require a "Yes" from the other side.   
      
   "Acquire" / "Reclaiming" - Annex / Seize - "Reclaiming" implies the land   
   already belongs to you, which justifies taking it.   
      
   "Taking control" - Seize - Usually refers to military or administrative   
   takeover.   
      
   "A deal that must happen" - Purchase / Annex - If the other side says no to a   
   deal, but it 'must happen," it implies a forced outcome.   
      
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   In Conclusion   
      
   You are right to point out that failing to rule out an action is not the same   
   as committing to it. The word "annexation" appears ONLY in the headlines   
   because it is the specific legal term for taking territory without the consent   
   of the current owner. Since Trump has said he wants the land and has not ruled   
   out using force to "get it," observers use the word "annexation" as the   
   technical description of that potential scenario.   
      
   (AGAIN... Trump did not use the words)   
      
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   "I am pleased to announce that I am appointing the GREAT Governor of   
   Louisiana, Jeff Landry, as the United States Special Envoy to Greenland. Jeff   
   understands how essential Greenland is to our National Security, and will   
   strongly advance our Country's Interests for the Safety, Security, and   
   Survival of our Allies, and indeed, the World. Congratulations Jeff!" Dec 21,   
   2025, 8:21 PM   
      
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   President Trump renews push for Greenland, citing U.S. national security needs   
   written by Dillon Burroughs December 23,2025   
      
   President Donald Trump on Monday again argued that the United States needs   
   Greenland for "national security," increasing tensions with Denmark after   
   appointing a special envoy to the Danish Arctic island.   
      
   Since returning to the White House in January, the president has repeatedly   
   said the U.S. "needs" the resource-rich autonomous territory for security   
      
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