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   AlleyCat to All   
   Re: Yet Another Canadian Communist Leade   
   19 Jan 26 23:01:15   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats   
   From: katt@gmail.com   
      
   On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 17:40:00 -0800,  Alan says...   
      
   >   
   > On 2026-01-19 16:42, AlleyCat wrote:   
   > >   
   > > On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 11:24:01 -0800,  Alan says...   
   > >   
   > >> Now who is the mindreader!   
   > >   
   > > Who said anything about reading his mind?   
      
   > You decided what he MEANT by his WORDS.   
      
   Yes.   
      
   > How did you do that without reading his mind?   
      
   Read MY words again: New World order, where communists and socialists rule.   
      
   Now read his: "... the partnership sets us up well for the new world order."   
      
   It's MY opinion that counts here, rich boy. Unlike you faggots in Canada and   
   England, we still have freedom of speech.   
      
   I can INTERPRET however the fuck I WANT to interpret your dictator's WORDS.   
   I'm not reading his mind... I'm reading his words.   
      
   A partnership with a Communist Country. On top of the way Canada's BEEN   
   going... it's not a stretch knowing where you are.   
      
   =====   
      
   We have to look at some of the events in Canada through the lens of   
   authoritarian drift. The argument isn't necessarily that Canada has adopted a   
   Marxist handbook, but rather that IT IS ADOPTING THE METHODS OF THE CHINESE   
   STATE-CENTRALIZED CONTROL, THE WEAPONIZATION OF FINANCE, AND STATE-DIRECTED   
   INDUSTRY.   
      
   Here is how we could build the case that Canada has moved toward a "command   
   and control" model.   
      
   1. The Weaponization of the Banking System   
      
   The most significant piece of evidence for this argument is the use of the   
   Emergencies Act to freeze bank accounts.   
      
   The Precedent: In a traditional liberal democracy, your private property   
   (money) is protected by due process. By freezing the accounts of protesters   
   without a court order, the government demonstrated that access to your own   
   livelihood is a privilege granted by the state, conditional on your political   
   behavior.   
      
   The "China" Connection: This mirrors the logic of China's Social Credit   
   System. If you dissent or 'disturb social order," the state restricts your   
   ability to travel, buy property, or use financial services. Critics argue that   
   once a government realizes it can "turn off" its citizens' money to end a   
   protest, it has crossed the rubicon into authoritarianism.   
      
   2. State Control of the "Means of Production"   
      
   While the government hasn't seized every factory, we can argue they are   
   achieving the same result through Industrial Policy and massive subsidies.   
      
   Picking Winners: The Carney government has committed over $116 billion to   
   specific "nation-building" projects and "strategic industries" (EVs, critical   
   minerals, etc.). When the state decides which industries get billions in tax   
   dollars and which are taxed out of existence (like oil and gas), the   
   government effectively controls the means of production by proxy.   
      
   (A KEY TENET OF A COMMUNIST REGIME IS THE COLLECTIVE OWNERSHIP OF THE MEANS OF   
   PRODUCTION)   
      
   The "Buy Canadian" Mandate: New policies requiring federal projects to use   
   only Canadian-made steel and aluminum essentially create a captive market.   
   While framed as "patriotism," critics see it as Protectionist Statism, where   
   the government dictates market winners rather than letting consumers decide.   
      
   3. Merging Corporate and State Power   
      
   A hallmark of the "New World Order" critics fear is the blurring of the line   
   between the CEO and the Politician.   
      
   The "Stakeholder" Pivot: Mark Carney is a champion of "Stakeholder   
   Capitalism." To a skeptic, this is just a fancy way of saying corporations   
   should serve political goals (like climate targets or social equity) rather   
   than just making a profit.   
      
   The Result: When the state and the biggest banks/corporations align to enforce   
   the same social and economic rules, it creates a "soft" version of the Chinese   
   model, where the Communist Party and major Chinese firms (like Huawei) act as   
   a single unit.   
      
   4. Ideological Alignment with Beijing   
      
   The decision to pivot toward China-even as it faces accusations of human   
   rights abuses and aggressive espionage-is seen by some as a moral and   
   ideological choice.   
      
   Admiration for Efficiency: Critics often point back to former PM Justin   
   Trudeau's 2013 comment about "admiring China's basic dictatorship" because it   
   allows them to "turn their economy around on a dime."   
      
   The Argument: If the Canadian government believes democracy is too "slow" or   
   "messy" to solve modern problems (like climate change), they may naturally   
   gravitate toward the Chinese model of Technocratic Authoritarianism, where   
   "experts" like Carney make the rules and the public simply complies.   
      
   Summary:   
      
   The premise here is that "Communism" in 2026 doesn't look like 1950s Russia;   
   it looks like 2020s China. It is a system where you can still own a business,   
   but only if you follow the state's rules, support the state's ideology, and   
   keep your mouth shut-otherwise, your bank account is frozen and your industry   
   is regulated into bankruptcy.   
      
   =====   
      
   I stand by what I said:   
      
   Congrats Canada... you are now an OFFICIAL communist country. (IMOAOND)   
      
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   "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition   
      
   All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.   
      
   "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has   
   been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the   
   point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."   
      
   Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the   
   Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three distinct phases or   
   stages:   
      
   "In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The   
   president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were   
   all it took to change the world."   
      
   "The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's   
   vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of   
   hyperbole."   
      
   "As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from   
   reality."   
      
   The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk   
   opposition from liberals to anything and everything Trump does. If Trump   
   announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would   
   suggest he was up to something nefarious, according to the logic of TDS.   
   There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be   
   received positively by TDSers.   
      
   The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early   
   2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was a punch line for late-   
   night comics and nothing more.   
      
   Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first   
      
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