XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
From: nuh-uh@nope.com
On 2026-01-19 17:25, pothead wrote:
> On 2026-01-20, Alan wrote:
>> On 2026-01-19 16:09, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <10kmd75$n7db$10@dont-email.me>, nuh-
>>> uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2026-01-19 14:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <10kmbp2$n7db$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2026-01-19 14:22, Socialism is for losers wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 14:09:12 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-18 16:44, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <10kjs1l$3rq66$22@dont-email.me>, nuh-
>>>>>>>>> uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-16 20:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10kf352$28hf2$8@dont-email.me>, nuh-
>>>>>>>>>>> uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-16 20:14, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10keu4p$27aph$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-16 18:53, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10kemhj$24cdg$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-16 16:38, Socialism is for losers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The car sure jerked ahead as it hit him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. The "officer" might have jerked, but there is video
taken from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside the car and it moved off in a completely ordinary
manner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it jerked ahead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a video that shows it did not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And there are more that show it did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So produce a link to one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Run away!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you haven't addressed that she was clearly steering
away from him...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and yet she hit him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...which she wouldn't have been doing if she was
"weaponizing her car".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. She had to have known that she'd hit him. She just
didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expect that he'd be ready with a gun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the contrary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was clearly moving as she began to back and turn her wheel
left.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On a one way street.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then he CHOOSES to stop in front of the left corner of her
car and draw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his weapon when one more step to his right would have put him
out of any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> danger being struck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Her intent to simply leave can be inferred from the fact that
she was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turning away from him. His own cellphone video shows it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why was she there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was returning home after dropping her child at school.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But you said she wasn't familiar with the street. You shot
>>>>>>>>>>> yourself in the foot again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I never said that. I said that in a high stress situation, she
tried to
>>>>>>>>>> turn around to drive back in the direction she'd come before
realizing
>>>>>>>>>> that she was on a one way street.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> She should have already known it was a one way street. Why
>>>>>>>>> didn't she just keep driving?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because it was a high stress situation and she at first thought
turning
>>>>>>>> around was the better choice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leftists claim that they can read dead people's minds.
>>>>>> I don't claim to read anyone's mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I offered a very reasonable scenario for why someone might forget that a
>>>>>> street was one way only.
>>>>>
>>>>> No you didn't. As a driver it's your place to know.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. And yet accidents still happen.
>>>
>>> Driving the wrong way on a one way street is not an
>>> accident.
>>
>> It's a mistake: to in a moment of stress forget that it was a one way
>> street.
>
> So in a moment of stress, as you say, she remembered exactly how many turns
her steering wheel
> is lock to lock?
>
> Your idiocy is legendary Alan.
You don't understand humans very well.
Have you never heard of "muscle memory"? It's a misnomer in that it
isn't actually the muscles that remember, but the meaning that people do
certain things automatically is correct.
>
>
>
>> The stress of suddenly finding yourselves in the middle of an ICE raid.
>
> And the ICE individual wasn't under stress?
He probably was. But he put himself in a position to be under stress in
contravention of the tactics he was supposed to use.
> I wonder if he knows how many turns the steering wheel in his car is lock to
lock?
It doesn't matter. He can see her INTENT by the fact that she was
turning the wheel to the right...
...and regardless, he could still simply have taken one more step before
stopping and been completely out of any path the vehicle could have
taken at that point.
"1-16.200 - USE OF DEADLY FORCE AND PROHIBITED RESTRAINT TECHNIQUES
A. Deadly Force
2. Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles.
Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless:
(1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person
with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is
operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical
injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable
means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path
of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle
except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must
have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force."
Read that over and over and over until you get it:
"and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist,
which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."
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