XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-19 16:34, Skeeter wrote:   
   > In article <10kmgkj$n7db$22@dont-email.me>, nuh-   
   > uh@nope.com says...   
   >>   
   >> On 2026-01-19 15:49, Skeeter wrote:   
   >>> In article <10kmd4m$n7db$8@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com   
   >>> says...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> On 2026-01-19 14:54, Skeeter wrote:   
   >>>>> In article <10kmc75$nduj$13@dont-email.me>, nuh-   
   >>>>> uh@nope.com says...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2026-01-19 14:38, Skeeter wrote:   
   >>>>>>> In article <10kma0i$nduj$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com   
   >>>>>>> says...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 2026-01-18 16:41, Skeeter wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> In article <10kjrqc$3rq66$17@dont-email.me>, nuh-   
   >>>>>>>>> uh@nope.com says...   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-18 15:52, Skeeter wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> In article <10kjpuf$3rq66$8@dont-email.me>, nuh-   
   >>>>>>>>>>> uh@nope.com says...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-17 15:37, Skeeter wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10kh336$2tn8q$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> uh@nope.com says...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-15 16:29, Skeeter wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His: tell us of his training. Tell us what HIS training   
   was when he was about   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be run over by a domestic insurrectionist terrorist,   
   who was blocking him   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and his fellow federal agents, from performing his/their   
   duties as ICE agents.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you'd never ask!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Chapter 1: General Guidelines   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHOSE "guidelines?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Customs and Border Patrol's "Use of Force Policy".   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All go out the window when someone is trying to run you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. That is exactly when the policy comes into play.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fuck the policy? You are just looking for an excuse to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The policy exists to protect both law enforcement and citizens.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He violated that policy to CREATE a threat.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> So you do admit it exists.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Admit what: that a policy exists which he violated?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> '2. Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving   
   vehicles.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle   
   unless:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another   
   person   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the   
   vehicle is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious   
   physical   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively   
   reasonable   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of   
   the path   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> of the vehicle.'   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Read that last part until you get it:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 'and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to   
   exist,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.'   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Admit we don't do court here like you do in commie   
   >>>>>>>>>>> KKKanada. The jury will also look at the things that   
   >>>>>>>>>>> happened and the reaction and realize that he was self   
   >>>>>>>>>>> defending. Happens a lot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Not when the see he could simply have stepped out of the way.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Nope. Reread what I wrote.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Sure.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Done.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> He could still have just kept walking and never been in a position to   
   be   
   >>>>>>>> struck  at all.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And she could have just kept driving and she would be   
   >>>>>>> alive today.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> She attempted to just drive away...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> By making a 3 point turn?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> At first, yes.   
   >>>>   
   >>> First of what?   
   >>   
   >> Her first attempt to drive away was back the way she had come.   
   >   
   > By turning on a one way street?   
      
   Yup.   
      
   If a street were completely blocked by the presence of a fire engine,   
   wouldn't YOU turn around and go back the way you'd come?   
      
   >>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> ...and Jonathan Ross decided to stop walking while he was still   
   >>>>>> potentially in her path and was drawing his weapon before the car even   
   >>>>>> started moving forward.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> She was impeding them.   
   >>>> You don't get to draw your weapon on someone for "impeding" even if she   
   >>>> was...   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes you do if you feel threatened.   
   >>   
   >> What was threatening about a car backing up?   
   > She went forward and hit him.   
      
   So his conclusion from watching a car back up was that her intention was   
   to hit him?   
      
   >>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...which is funny because she was waving ICE vehicles past her.   
   >>>   
   >>> Nope. You said she didn't know who they were.   
   >> I never said that. Not once.   
   >   
   > Way back you said maybe she didn't realize it was a one   
   > way street. Why not?   
   Stress of the moment.   
      
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