XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump   
   From: invalid@none.com   
      
   In article <10kpe2u$1nett$10@dont-email.me>, nuh-   
   uh@nope.com says...   
   >   
   > On 2026-01-19 16:34, Skeeter wrote:   
   > > In article <10kmgkj$n7db$22@dont-email.me>, nuh-   
   > > uh@nope.com says...   
   > >>   
   > >> On 2026-01-19 15:49, Skeeter wrote:   
   > >>> In article <10kmd4m$n7db$8@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com   
   > >>> says...   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> On 2026-01-19 14:54, Skeeter wrote:   
   > >>>>> In article <10kmc75$nduj$13@dont-email.me>, nuh-   
   > >>>>> uh@nope.com says...   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> On 2026-01-19 14:38, Skeeter wrote:   
   > >>>>>>> In article <10kma0i$nduj$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com   
   > >>>>>>> says...   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> On 2026-01-18 16:41, Skeeter wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>> In article <10kjrqc$3rq66$17@dont-email.me>, nuh-   
   > >>>>>>>>> uh@nope.com says...   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-18 15:52, Skeeter wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> In article <10kjpuf$3rq66$8@dont-email.me>, nuh-   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> uh@nope.com says...   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-17 15:37, Skeeter wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10kh336$2tn8q$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> uh@nope.com says...   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-15 16:29, Skeeter wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His: tell us of his training. Tell us what HIS   
   training was when he was about   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be run over by a domestic insurrectionist   
   terrorist, who was blocking him   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and his fellow federal agents, from performing   
   his/their duties as ICE agents.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you'd never ask!   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Chapter 1: General Guidelines   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHOSE "guidelines?   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Customs and Border Patrol's "Use of Force Policy".   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All go out the window when someone is trying to run you   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. That is exactly when the policy comes into play.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fuck the policy? You are just looking for an excuse to   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The policy exists to protect both law enforcement and   
   citizens.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He violated that policy to CREATE a threat.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> So you do admit it exists.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> Admit what: that a policy exists which he violated?   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> '2. Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving   
   vehicles.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving   
   vehicle unless:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or   
   another person   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the   
   vehicle is   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious   
   physical   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively   
   reasonable   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of   
   the path   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the vehicle.'   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> Read that last part until you get it:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> 'and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to   
   exist,   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.'   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> Admit we don't do court here like you do in commie   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> KKKanada. The jury will also look at the things that   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> happened and the reaction and realize that he was self   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> defending. Happens a lot.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> Not when the see he could simply have stepped out of the way.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> Nope. Reread what I wrote.   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> Sure.   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> Done.   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> He could still have just kept walking and never been in a position   
   to be   
   > >>>>>>>> struck  at all.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> And she could have just kept driving and she would be   
   > >>>>>>> alive today.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> She attempted to just drive away...   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> By making a 3 point turn?   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> At first, yes.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>> First of what?   
   > >>   
   > >> Her first attempt to drive away was back the way she had come.   
   > >   
   > > By turning on a one way street?   
   >   
   > Yup.   
   >   
   > If a street were completely blocked by the presence of a fire engine,   
   > wouldn't YOU turn around and go back the way you'd come?   
      
   I wouldn't drive right up to it and have my partner jump   
   out and taunt them.   
   >   
   > >>   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> ...and Jonathan Ross decided to stop walking while he was still   
   > >>>>>> potentially in her path and was drawing his weapon before the car even   
   > >>>>>> started moving forward.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> She was impeding them.   
   > >>>> You don't get to draw your weapon on someone for "impeding" even if she   
   > >>>> was...   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Yes you do if you feel threatened.   
   > >>   
   > >> What was threatening about a car backing up?   
   > > She went forward and hit him.   
   >   
   > So his conclusion from watching a car back up was that her intention was   
   > to hit him?   
   >   
      
   It was a second. She FAFO and you just want to argue.   
   > >>   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> ...which is funny because she was waving ICE vehicles past her.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Nope. You said she didn't know who they were.   
   > >> I never said that. Not once.   
   > >   
   > > Way back you said maybe she didn't realize it was a one   
   > > way street. Why not?   
   > Stress of the moment.   
      
   I reckon a suv coming at me would be stressful also.   
      
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