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   AlleyCat to All   
   Re: Under Trudeau The Liberals Spent Ove   
   12 Feb 26 00:02:17   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc   
   From: katt@gmail.com   
      
   On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 13:06:09 -0800,  Alan says...   
      
   > > You got your ARSE handed to you yet again, canuckleheaded trash.   
   > >   
   >   
   > Nah... ...I really didn't.   
   >   
      
   Yah... ...you really did.   
      
   The whole point was not the EXACT number of $50 billion... it's that it didn't   
   work... it FAILED, just like you, wanting to whine about whether the "all the   
   money" allocated was "spent".   
      
   It doesn't MATTER.   
      
   What Trudeau and the liberals did, cost the TAXPAYERS ~$50 billion.   
      
   Under Trudeau the Liberals spent over $50 billion on the EV auto sector   
   saying Canada would be manufacturing over 1 million electric vehicles a   
   year.   
      
   The statement is accurate. The $50 billion figure usually refers to a   
   combination of federal and provincial taxpayer commitments over several years,   
   rather than a single lump-sum expenditure.   
      
   Here is the breakdown of the numbers and the manufacturing goals as they stand   
   in early 2026:   
      
   The $50 Billion Investment   
      
   The figure of $50 billion (and sometimes as high as $57 billion) has been   
   widely cited by the Parliamentary Budget Officer (PBO) and industry analysts.   
   This total typically includes:   
      
   Direct Subsidies and Tax Breaks: Massive deals for battery plants, such as   
   Volkswagen (up to $13.2 billion), Stellantis-LG ($15 billion), and Northvolt   
   ($4.6 billion).   
      
   Production Incentives: Many of these deals are "performance-based, " meaning   
   the money is paid out over a decade based on how many batteries the companies   
   actually produce.   
      
   Federal and Provincial Split: These costs are shared between the federal   
   Liberal government and provincial governments (primarily Ontario).   
      
   The "1 Million Vehicles" Goal   
      
   The Trudeau government frequently stated that its goal was to return Canada's   
   auto production to historic highs-specifically aiming for 1 million electric   
   vehicles annually by 2030.   
      
   The Logic: By securing the entire supply chain (from mining critical minerals   
   to building batteries and final assembly), the government argued Canada could   
   become a global EV hub.   
      
   CURRENT REALITY: As of February 2026, this goal has faced significant   
   headwinds. Global consumer demand for EVs slowed in late 2024 and 2025, and   
   major manufacturers like Stellantis and GM have recently scaled back their EV   
   production plans in North America.   
      
   Recent Developments (2026)   
      
   It is worth noting that since Mark Carney succeeded Justin Trudeau as Prime   
   Minister, there has been a significant "pivot" in this strategy:   
      
   Repealing the Mandate: The Carney government recently scrapped the strict 2035   
   "100% EV sales mandate" in favor of a more flexible emissions-based system.   
      
   New Rebates: While the 'mandate" is gone, the government just announced a new   
   $2.3 billion rebate program to try and jump-start sluggish domestic sales.   
      
   =====   
      
   Canada:   
      
   'Worst In The World': Here Are All The Rankings In Which Canada Is Now Last   
      
   Most Unaffordable Housing, Highest Cell phone Bills And Worst Rate of Acute   
   Care Beds, To Name A Few   
      
   If you spend any time on social media, it's likely that you've seen this   
   graphic compiled by columnist Stephen Lautens that assembles 11 international   
   indices which feature Canada near the top spot. "Canada is broken? I don't   
   think so. Neither does the world," reads a caption.   
      
   Next time someone rants on how about how "broken" Canada is; or how badly we   
   are doing on the international stage... share some facts.   
      
   Numbers don't lie, Felicia.   
      
   https://archive.is/o/LnFRL/https://twitter.com/DIGuideBradley/status/155454507   
   9314010112   
      
   Naturally, it only tells a partial picture. While Canada may dominate abstract   
   indices such as "quality of life" and "peace," there are plenty of far more   
   empirical indicators in which we measurably rank as among the worst in the   
   developed world.   
      
   There's plenty to like about Canada, but below is a not-at-all comprehensive   
   list of all the ways in which we are indeed very broken.   
      
   WE HAVE THE MOST UNAFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE OECD   
      
   The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development is essentially a   
   club of the world's 38 most developed countries. And when these 38 are ranked   
   against each other for housing unaffordability, Canada emerges as the clear   
   champion. OECD analysts rank affordability by comparing average home prices to   
   average incomes, and according to their latest quarterly rankings Canada was   
   No. 1 for salaries that were most out of whack with the cost of a home.   
      
   Housing by price to income ratio for the second quarter of 2022. That's Canada   
   on the extreme right.   
      
   https://archive.is/LnFRL/840da40d6fa3b7fef6fcccdfc1637d24e0786760.webp   
      
   WE HAVE THE WORLD'S MOST EXPENSIVE WIRELESS COSTS   
      
   Every year, the Finnish telecom analyst Rewheel ranks the world's most   
   expensive countries for wireless services. And last year, Canada once again   
   dominated. Across several metrics, Canada was found to be the most expensive   
   place in the world for mobile data. Analysts found that it would cost the   
   average Canadian the equivalent of at least 100 Euros to obtain a cell phone   
   plan with at least 100 gigabytes of mobile data. Across much of the EU, that   
   kind of cell phone plan could be had for less than 40 Euros.   
      
   https://archive.is/LnFRL/822bcfe750687b1ef6288ee7df5606fd15629289.webp   
      
   Canadian telecoms charge more than 10 times as much for 100 gigabytes of   
   mobile   
   data as companies in France or Ireland.   
      
   Canadian telecoms charge more than 10 times as much for 100 gigabytes of   
   mobile   
   data as companies in France or Ireland. Photo by Rewheel   
      
   WE HAVE THE LOWEST RATE OF ACUTE CARE BEDS AMONG PEER COUNTRIES   
      
   Canada's health system was particularly walloped by COVID-19 due to the simple   
   fact that most of our hospitals are at the breaking point even in good times.   
   Multiple times during the pandemic, provinces were forced into shutdown by   
   rates of COVID that had barely been noticed in better-prepared countries. A   
   ranking by the Canadian Institute for Health Information provides one clue as   
   to why. When ranked against peer countries, Canada's rate of per-capita acute   
   care beds was in last place, albeit tied with Sweden. Canada has two acute   
   care   
   beds for every 1,000 people, against 3.1 in France and six in Germany.   
      
   TWO OF THE PLANET'S "BUBBLIEST" REAL ESTATE MARKETS ARE IN CANADA   
      
   For at least 15 years now, Canada has been a regular contender on rankings of   
   overheated housing markets. And the latest UBS index of world cities with   
   "bubbly" real estate markets is no exception. In their 2021 index, Toronto was   
   second only to Frankfurt in terms of bubble risk, while Vancouver ranked   
   sixth.   
   Aside from Germany, Canada was the only country that saw two of its cities in   
   the top ten.   
      
      
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