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   On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 17:02:32 +1000, "Dechucka"    
   wrote:   
      
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   >"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" wrote in message   
   >news:nlf4m89ftevqs035ghfb9da79fp67404gl@4ax.com...   
   >> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:12:48 +1000, "Dechucka"    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" wrote in message   
   >>>news:9tc4m8d5j7u0hc7ihfhvtkntfrqqojqu2m@4ax.com...   
   >>>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:17:32 +1000, "Dechucka"    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>"Spartan613" wrote in message   
   >>>>>news:zpp8t.418$EY1.58@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...   
   >>>>>> "bringyagrogalong" wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:c3e2c8bb-5315-4564-9ee9-0cc7dad846af@r6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...   
   >>>>>> On Apr 7, 7:36 pm, ozarkhe...@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 09:47:59 +1000, "Dechucka"   
   >>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>> wrote:>   
   >>>>>>> >"RD Sandman" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> >news:XnsA1995BF3AE915hopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   >>>>>>> >> "Dechucka" wrote in   
   >>>>>>> >>news:cLidnYKdRec8fMDMnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@westnet.com.au:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>> "RD Sandman" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> >>>news:XnsA1986C1E2B82Ehopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   >>>>>>> >>>> "Dechucka" wrote in   
   >>>>>>> >>>>news:4pydnbR6TvEGB8HMnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@westnet.com.au:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>> "RD Sandman" wrote in   
   >>>>>>> >>>>> message   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>news:XnsA197849972ED2hopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>> "Dechucka" wrote in   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>news:usSdnbuI5bDxHcHMnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "RD Sandman" wrote in   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>news:XnsA1976A8929D05hopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Dechucka" wrote in   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>news:vLmdnZ_J5ZTH4cbMnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@westnet.com.au:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>news:etsml85f3qg0v9itca53q0ufgic1h4c0qa@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:31:01 +1100, "Dechucka"   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>news:8fckl896kma3pgt2merngcrlcrnf2njp1p@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:50:37 +1100, "Dechucka"   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>news:sshgl89t7qtihmu8v59ianojcgefn0667s@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:50:30 +1000, F Murtz   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>    
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ozarkhe...@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:30:50 -0700 (PDT),   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bringyagrogalong wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ozarkhe...@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "yaputya" wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's somethingh the gun-nuts won't want to   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see....   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shields told host Judy Woodruff, "You know, Judy,   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality is --   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's a terrible reality -- since Robert   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kennedy   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> died   
   >>>>>>> >>>> in   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Ambassador Hotel on June 4, 1968, more   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Americans   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have died from gunfire than died in . all the   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wars   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this country's history, from   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Revolutionary through the Civil War, World   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> War   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I,   
   >>>>>>> >>>> World   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> War II,   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in those 43 years. ... I mean, guns are a   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they still have to be confronted."   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that counting the unarmed people that died at   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> governments led by Stalin? Hitler? Mao? In   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cambodia?   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Africa?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what difference would it have made if they were   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> armed,   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>> you   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dull-   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witted gimp?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Probably a lot in those days,but not now with modern   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>armoury   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is open to debate. But you made the point -   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a   
   >>>>>>> >>>> lot   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in those days.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>but not today   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why not?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>you against a Abrahams Tank (?) ?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I can stop it with a .22 pistol.....if one does it right.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> lol   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He's right. Kill the driver, the tank doesn't go anywhere.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>> doesn't the driver sit inside the tank with lots or armor   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>> around   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>> her   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>> Until he or she has to shit or eat or bivuoac. Never been   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>> around   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>> a   
   >>>>>>> >>>> tank   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>> command have you.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>> than you run in with your 22 and shoot them, lol   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>> Don't have to run in to shoot them. Damn, I swear you are   
   >>>>>>> >>>> getting   
   >>>>>>> >>>> stupider every time you return to this newsgroup.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>> Point is that sometime they have to come out of the tank or at   
   >>>>>>> >>>> least   
   >>>>>>> >>>> open the hatches. This is a 9mm versus a tank:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>http://tinyurl.com/cerqg3   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>> see previous post about how redundant Armour is if your brilliant   
   >>>>>>> >>> tactics are effective   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >> Don't have to. I already showed you a 9mm besting a tank operator.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >lol. You claim that arnour is redundant because of a 9mm   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> No - his claim - and mine - is that a tank is vulnerable. Everything   
   >>>>>>> is - tank, aircraft, vehicles - and people.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> But certainly not vulnerable to a .22 or a 9mm you demented halfwit.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> ********   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Without a crew, a tank is 52 tons of playground equipment.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>True but how are you going to get all the crews with your .22   
   >>>>   
      
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