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On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:13:45 +1000, "Spartan613"
wrote:
>"Dechucka" wrote in message
>news:x-OdnWkvRtgXrf_MnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>
>> "Spartan613" wrote in message
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>>> "Dechucka" wrote in message
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>>>>> "Dechucka" wrote in message
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>>>>>> "RD Sandman" wrote in message
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>>>>>>> "Dechucka" wrote in
>>>>>>> news:laadnagdVffILv3MnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@westnet.com.au:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It was a moronic comment and we all know it. On that basis you
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> need a gun a cricket bat will do or a piece of fruit ( see Monty
>>>>>>>>>> Python)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sooner or later, those in fortified positions have to come out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in tanks?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You think tank operators are welded in place?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you think they pack a picnic and sit around in the daisies having
>>>>>> lunch by themselves?
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a fucking idiot. (We knew that already, of course).
>>>>>
>>>>> Tank crews get out of their tanks OUTSIDE fortified positions when the
>>>>> need arises.
>>>>>
>>>>> That usually happens not long after the sun goes down and they
>>>>> harbour-up for the night and start slinging hammocks off the vehicles,
>>>>> brew up and make an evening meal .
>>>>
>>>> Oh you mean in a protected bivouac
>>>
>>> Define "protected", dickhead.
>>>
>>> FYI, we don't put up bullet proof screens between the vehicles.
>>
>> and you don't just park your tanks and have a kip without a defensive
>> perimeter.
>
>No.
>
>>Come on even the humble foot soldier has a defensive perimeter
>
>And when they make them utterly impregnable, the kevlar makers will be out
>of business.
>
>Until then.....
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dickhead, obviously you've lived in the field with a tank Troop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why the fuck do you insist on making comments on things you clearly
>>>>> know fuck-all about?!
>>>>
>>>> You were out protecting the tank crews were you?
>>>
>>> No, I was a member of an AFV crew. Clown.
>>
>> so when you were bunkering down you all put your hammocks out and went to
>> sleep?
>
>Why the fuck else would anyone harbour-up and set up their gonk gear?
>
>>>
>>> Why do you insist of commenting on things you know fuck-all about?
>>>
>>> Seems you have pathological condition for it.
>>>
>>>> Maybe when they were outside their vehicles? Did you feel in danger from
>>>> a civilian with a 22 pistol or did you take precautions
>>>
>>> The danger can come from any number of things.
>>
>> the .22 is what we are discussing
>
>The .22 can be a dangerous weapon in the right hands.
Dangerous to an Abrams tank?
LOL!
>If they weren't, no military forces would employ them.
No military employs .22 pistols to attack Abraham tanks, the idea is
insane.
Tank Urban Survival Kit
M1A2 with TUSK
M1A1 Abrams with an Abrams Integrated Management System and the Tank
Urban Survivability Kit conducting a patrol in Baghdad, 2007.
The Tank Urban Survival Kit (TUSK), is a series of improvements to the
M1 Abrams intended to improve fighting ability in urban
environments.[82] Historically, urban and other close battlefields
have been the worst place for tanks to fight—a tank's front armor is
much stronger than that on the sides, top, or rear, and in an urban
environment, attacks can come from any direction, and attackers can
get close enough to reliably hit weak points in the tank's armor, or
gain sufficient elevation to hit the top armor.
Armor upgrades include reactive armor on the sides of the tank and
slat armor (similar to that on the Stryker) on the rear to protect
against rocket-propelled grenades and other shaped charge warheads.
A Transparent Armor Gun Shield and a thermal sight system are added to
the loader's top-mounted M240B 7.62 mm machine gun, and a Kongsberg
Gruppen Remote Weapon Turret carrying a .50 caliber machine gun (again
similar to that used on the Stryker) is in place of the tank
commander's original .50 caliber machine gun mount, wherein the
commander had to expose himself to fire the weapon manually. An
exterior telephone allows supporting infantry to communicate with the
tank commander.
The TUSK system is a field-installable kit that allows tanks to be
upgraded without needing to be recalled to a maintenance depot. While
the reactive armor may not be needed in most situations in maneuver
warfare, items like the rear slat armor, loader's gun shield, infantry
phone (which saw use on Marine Corps M1A1s as early as 2003), and
Kongsberg Remote Weapons Station for the .50 caliber machine gun will
be added to the entire M1A2 fleet over time.
On 29 August 2006, General Dynamics Land Systems received a U.S. Army
order for 505 Tank Urban Survivability Kits (TUSK) for Abrams main
battle tanks supporting operations in Iraq, under a US$45 million
contract. The add-on kit will be provided for M1A1 and M1A2-series
tanks to enhance crew survivability in urban environments.
The kit ordered by the Army consists of a Loader's Armor Gun Shield
(LAGS), a Tank Infantry Phone (TIP), Abrams Reactive Armor Tiles
(ARAT), a Remote Thermal Sight (RTS) and a Power Distribution Box
(PDB). Deliveries are expected to be complete by April 2009.[83
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