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   "GOP_Decline_and_Fall"  wrote in message   
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   > On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:10:35 +1000, "Spartan613"    
   > wrote:   
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   >>"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"  wrote in message   
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   >>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:10:20 +1000, "Spartan613"    
   >>> wrote:   
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   >>>>"Dechucka"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>> "Spartan613"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>>> "Dechucka"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>>>> "Scout"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>>>>> "bringyagrogalong"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:b2538c35-7ef7-4d01-83ed-c6d86cf39c81@y12g2000yqb.g   
   oglegroups.com...   
   >>>>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> bringyagrogalong  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> > Klaus Schadenfreude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> Who drives the tank?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> > The driver, doofus.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> > A driver in an impregnable environment surrounded by an armed   
   >>>>>>>>>> > crew.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> "Impregnable?"   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Really?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yep! Certainly as far as a .22 is concerned.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Really? A .22 won't go through an open hatch or hit a member of the   
   >>>>>>>> tank crew outside of the tank?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Are you suggesting the crew is going to spend their whole   
   >>>>>>>> enlistment   
   >>>>>>>> inside that tank?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Going to get pretty rip in there after about 3 days.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I don't know but with armour vehicles in say Afghanistan the crews   
   >>>>>>> don't   
   >>>>>>> seem to be taken out by 22s that often. Maybe because they go back   
   >>>>>>> to   
   >>>>>>> a   
   >>>>>>> secure base or bivouac   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Feel free to contribute when you have a clue.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> the argument is to difficult for you to argue isn't it   
   >>>>   
   >>>>To the contrary, I've been in this caper on and off since 1979.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>What have you ever done?   
   >>>   
   >>> It wouldn't matter if you were General Patton, you do NOT take out   
   >>> Abrams tanks with .22 pistols.   
   >>   
   >>Not the tanks you don't. No.   
   >>   
   >>Where did anyone say they were going to destroy a tank with a .22?   
   >   
   > Memory problems?   
   > ozarkheart boasted he could take out an Abrams tank with a .22 pistol.   
      
   You can't destroy a tank that way. The crew, however.   
      
   > As modern Abraham tanks are totally sealed with remote weapons systems   
   > and video display  I guess we are back to murdering off-duty tank   
   > drivers relaxing in a bar are we?   
      
   Tank crews unbutton the hatches most of the time, unless they're actually   
   under attack. It's just easier to maintain situational awareness that way.   
      
   You've never been an AFV crewman, have you?   
      
   Have you ever even been in a tank?   
      
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   want merely because you think it would be good for him".   
      
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