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   "GOP_Decline_and_Fall" wrote in message   
   news:qpkcm8942o7iataggs0v8jg70g3aour1c0@4ax.com...   
   > On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 13:57:08 +1000, "Spartan613"   
   > wrote:   
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   >>"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" wrote in message   
   >>news:qdj7m81d9gfn8trgtpmpb114je2hh0a2hv@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:10:35 +1000, "Spartan613"    
   >>> wrote:   
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   >>>>"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" wrote in message   
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   >>>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:10:20 +1000, "Spartan613"    
   >>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>"Dechucka" wrote in message   
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   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "Spartan613" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:d1q8t.424$EY1.33@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...   
   >>>>>>>> "Dechucka" wrote in message   
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   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> "Scout" wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>> news:kjt5u9$out$1@dont-email.me...   
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   >>>>>>>>>> "bringyagrogalong" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>> news:b2538c35-7ef7-4d01-83ed-c6d86cf39c81@y12g2000yqb   
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   >>>>>>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> bringyagrogalong wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> > Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> >>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> >> Who drives the tank?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> > The driver, doofus.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> > A driver in an impregnable environment surrounded by an armed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> > crew.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> "Impregnable?"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Really?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Yep! Certainly as far as a .22 is concerned.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Really? A .22 won't go through an open hatch or hit a member of   
   >>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>> tank crew outside of the tank?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Are you suggesting the crew is going to spend their whole   
   >>>>>>>>>> enlistment   
   >>>>>>>>>> inside that tank?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Going to get pretty rip in there after about 3 days.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I don't know but with armour vehicles in say Afghanistan the crews   
   >>>>>>>>> don't   
   >>>>>>>>> seem to be taken out by 22s that often. Maybe because they go back   
   >>>>>>>>> to   
   >>>>>>>>> a   
   >>>>>>>>> secure base or bivouac   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Feel free to contribute when you have a clue.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> the argument is to difficult for you to argue isn't it   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>To the contrary, I've been in this caper on and off since 1979.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>What have you ever done?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It wouldn't matter if you were General Patton, you do NOT take out   
   >>>>> Abrams tanks with .22 pistols.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Not the tanks you don't. No.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Where did anyone say they were going to destroy a tank with a .22?   
   >>>   
   >>> Memory problems?   
   >>> ozarkheart boasted he could take out an Abrams tank with a .22 pistol.   
   >>   
   >>You can't destroy a tank that way. The crew, however.   
   >>   
   >>> As modern Abraham tanks are totally sealed with remote weapons systems   
   >>> and video display I guess we are back to murdering off-duty tank   
   >>> drivers relaxing in a bar are we?   
   >>   
   >>Tank crews unbutton the hatches most of the time, unless they're actually   
   >>under attack. It's just easier to maintain situational awareness that way.   
   >   
   > Bullshit.   
      
   What's you experience in tanks? What unit?   
      
   > All the situational awareness need is totally electronic   
      
   And they work ALL the time and cover EVERY angle too.   
      
   >>You've never been an AFV crewman, have you?   
   >>   
   >>Have you ever even been in a tank?   
   >   
   > Clearly you know absolutely NOTHING about an Abrams tank.   
      
   What unit were you in?   
      
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