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"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" wrote in message
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> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:41:05 +1000, "Spartan613"
> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> "bringyagrogalong" wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bringyagrogalong wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Who drives the tank?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The driver, doofus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > A driver in an impregnable environment surrounded by an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > armed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > crew.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Impregnable?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep! Certainly as far as a .22 is concerned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Really? A .22 won't go through an open hatch or hit a member of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> tank crew outside of the tank?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you suggesting the crew is going to spend their whole
>>>>>>>>>>>> enlistment
>>>>>>>>>>>> inside that tank?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Going to get pretty rip in there after about 3 days.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know but with armour vehicles in say Afghanistan the
>>>>>>>>>>> crews
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> seem to be taken out by 22s that often. Maybe because they go
>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> secure base or bivouac
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to contribute when you have a clue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the argument is to difficult for you to argue isn't it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>To the contrary, I've been in this caper on and off since 1979.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What have you ever done?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It wouldn't matter if you were General Patton, you do NOT take out
>>>>>>> Abrams tanks with .22 pistols.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not the tanks you don't. No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Where did anyone say they were going to destroy a tank with a .22?
>>>>>
>>>>> Memory problems?
>>>>> ozarkheart boasted he could take out an Abrams tank with a .22 pistol.
>>>>
>>>>You can't destroy a tank that way. The crew, however.
>>>>
>>>>> As modern Abraham tanks are totally sealed with remote weapons systems
>>>>> and video display I guess we are back to murdering off-duty tank
>>>>> drivers relaxing in a bar are we?
>>>>
>>>>Tank crews unbutton the hatches most of the time, unless they're
>>>>actually
>>>>under attack. It's just easier to maintain situational awareness that
>>>>way.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>>What's you experience in tanks? What unit?
>>
>>> All the situational awareness need is totally electronic
>>
>>And they work ALL the time and cover EVERY angle too.
>>
>>>>You've never been an AFV crewman, have you?
>>>>
>>>>Have you ever even been in a tank?
>>>
>>> Clearly you know absolutely NOTHING about an Abrams tank.
>>
>>What unit were you in?
>
> Save your ad hominems and macho reminiscences, they have no bearing on
> the inventors and designers of the situational awareness and automated
> defense systems in place on a modern tank.
In other words, you're just a flogbag who knows fuck-all and likes to
impress yourself with your copy and paste skills.
That about sum it up?
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